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Guje



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: A Silent Walk for Justice  Reply with quote

Dear All of You.

People are innocently put to jail, while the criminals walk free. Families are fighting for years and years to get crimes that were committed to their loved ones investigated, but in vain. There are victims of crimes that are not compensated and cared for. People are robbed by the council, of the Common Good Land that was donated to them ages ago. There are violence against women and sexual abuse against children, lawyers cheating their clients, authorities withholding information and covering up, and so on. The list could be long and all of you reading this have your own severe cases to add.

A well functioning justice system is one of the foundations of a human and civilized society, and that is what we want this great country, Scotland, to be. Living in a democracy we also have the right to chose those who are to represent us politically. And we also have the right to express our selves when we are not content with their job or the conditions of society.

Therefore we are writing this letter to all of you suffering from injustice. Let’s come together and make our voices heard.  We suggest that we make “A Silent Walk For Justice” to show politicians, media and the public of Scotland that we are not satisfied with the current justice system and that we want a change, now.

Let´s walk the Royal Mile down together from the castle and stop outside the Parliament. All of us bringing pictures of the ones, or what, we are fighting for and candles to lit outside the Parliament in the dark. Let us also put a short text together where we ask for justice for all of us,
that we all sign, and hand it over to The Minister of Justice Kenny MacAskill, or who could be willing to meet us outside.

We want this walk to be absolutely peaceful and silent and let our pictures and candles speak for our mission. Our suggestion is that we make The Silent Walk for Justice one afternoon the first week in December, since we then will be in Scotland for the anniversary of my daughter Annie Borjesson’s suspicious and unsolved death. We will get back with day and time for the Silent Walk for Justice as soon as Mr. MacAskill has replied to what day he can see us.

Please write to let us know if you will be able to attend or if you have any suggestions about the walk. We also need one man and one woman to speak for us when handing over our request.

Hope to hear from you all. Remember that one and one we may be weak, but together we will be strong!

Guje Borgesson and Maria Jansson.

gujeborgesson@hotmail.com mia.jansson1222@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the ever rising levels of injustice in Scotland, the time has come to raise the profile of these issues to the public, more than the internet can attain in Scotland.

I hope this walk for injustice is taken up by many groups, to bring home to Scotland, the problems of our failing legal system, which is failing us all.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterCherbi wrote:
Given the ever rising levels of injustice in Scotland, the time has come to raise the profile of these issues to the public, more than the internet can attain in Scotland.

I hope this walk for injustice is taken up by many groups, to bring home to Scotland, the problems of our failing legal system, which is failing us all.


Peter

I have many ideas on campaigning. I have campaigned for over 12 years for US cases on death row and learned so much from my American friends and fellow campaigners.

Media in US have access to even death row inmates every 90 days. Where the cases can be kept in the media eye.

We should have this here but I know we do not.

I always feel that the people we campaign for should be made human to the public. Human interest stories always get more attention at first in cases. I know this from my own experiences.

Prisoners write poetry, short stories, draw, tell some of their story of why they are in prison and what their day to day life etc is for them. People like to read stuff like this.

It lets people see them as a person and not just a case.

People are more willing to help in cases if they feel they know the person or have an affinity with them.

Your every day Joe Public isnt interested in laws etc, but in the stories behind the laws and behind the case.

We could have a wonderful prison advocacy here in Scotland if some people got together and shared their ideas.

Student Unions and Human Rights Unions are in every uni and college. These students work hard on these things.

We should be getting them involved too.

Glasgow Uni has a wonderful law department, where I have gone to lectures in the past. As is Edinburgh Uni.

Strathclyde is another one in Glasgow which has people going to speak about injustices in America.

There is no reason why we cannot do things like lectures on Scottish cases to the students etc.

People have got complacent and no longer protest in the ways they used to do and that needs to change.

I have been also involved in many letter writing campaigns where certain people are targetted at the one time to get attention.

Emails are fine but they can be deleted so easily. Its harder to ignore piles of real mail.

As I  say I have many thoughts on campaigning and I would love to be involved in something in Scotland.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi scotkaz

Yes I agree we could all do with a change of pace along the lines of the way other countries handle injustice campaigns and ensure more media focus of such cases, and people.

One of the problems though, over here, is that when a journalist or even a newspaper takes on such a role, they invariably get a few words in the ear from time to time from those whose interests are not served by the exposure of injustice.

I do not say that lightly, as I have known a few journalists over the years, whose careers have either been threatened or abruptly ended simply because they decided to write about certain ways in which the public were treated unfairly at the hands of say, the legal profession itself ... even in one case, where an editor told me of a newspaper itself begin threatened with the withdrawal of business if editorial policies were not changed accordingly.

We have a long way to go in Scotland to get over what many who have been bitten by the system will know as an unrivalled control over the course of things by what Iain McKie refers to as the self protective nature of things such as the justice system ... but a good time to start is now, particularly when justice is so badly lacking in Scotland.

Lets all pull together ?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterCherbi wrote:
Hi scotkaz



Lets all pull together ?


I am more than willing to meet up with like minded people to see what ideas we can toss around and try to put into practice Peter.

I am sure others might be interested in joining in if they can actually see something happening. Well I live in eternal hope Smile

We all have differing talents and yes we should put them together and fight this together.

It all begins with one idea and then it grows:) Lets put the active back into activism.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotkaz wrote:

We all have differing talents and yes we should put them together and fight this together.

It all begins with one idea and then it grows:) Lets put the active back into activism.


I agree entirely. I think Guje's idea should be supported and lets make the issue of injustice as public as possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear All!

The response are incredible, so many people that want to come together and make this Silent Walk For Justice.

We are All reaching out a helping hand to each other and to others that we do not know yet. Let us hope that we can be an inspiration to others that do not have so much strength left.

As I have told you all so many times before but I still want to say that once more;
Before Guje and I met You, we were alone, the ideas that we had were only our ideas! The strength we had, were only our already drained strength. We did not have any knowledge at all about the Scottish Justice system.

When we then came in contact with different organisations and also came in contact with some of You, we started to share with each other, and now there are a lot of great ideas that has started to take shape, the knowledge is even greater and the support when there is questions that needs to be discussed, can not be prised enough!

We have all different knowledge and skills and by coming together sharing the facts and also the different experiences that we posses that is also a way to work together.

To share our stories, make case studies is so very important both to those who are new on the forum and to those already writing here. Even if we do not have the strength to put our self into each and every detail of the different cases that all of us have, we still have the knowledge about what is happening among us.

Every morning when we wake up to a new day we can all feel that we are not alone in this, and that is truly an Inspiration to go on and work even harder, never give up and never forget that out there are more of us and that we together can make a change and put pressure on the authorities to finally act!

By walking in the Peaceful Silent Walk, we all reach out a loving and caring arm to each other and also to those who felt alone and drained of strength as we did, walking together in this walk will also Give every one an opportunity to make new very important contacts, friends for life, share ideas and embrace each other with the incredible support and power we poses together.


Ghandi once said that Injustice must be made visible!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear all

We are still waiting for the answer from the Parliament if Kenny MacAskill will be able to meet his people when honouring their loved ones that needs Justice. The letter have already been at Crown Office and they should decice if it was good for Mr MacAskill to attend and meet his people or not. Guje have been given the answer that within three days we will receive a proper answer if the Justice Minister is going to attend or not.

This is very frustrating for all of us, and has taken so long time, but we still need to await the answer that we hope will come this week.

1) There will be a lone piper that will signal the start at The Silent Walk For Justice outside the Edinburgh Castle. He will then walk in silence in full kilted regalia to the end of the walk, at the Scottish Parliament. After we all have lighted our candles and put down out pictures and are standing behind the shrine the piper will signal – the signal will be the requirement for Mr MacAskill to appear.  After the short speeches from one of the representatives for us the people and Mr MacAskill´s short speech the lone piper will play a suitable tune and then the service are over and the media is allowed to approach us with their questions, interviews or /and leave contact details for future contacts.


2) The writing that will be handed over will be done by a man that is very up to date with the injustice in Scotland and we are so looking forward to read that. He is a great writer and a true inspiration to us all.


3) We are awaiting the answer from a well known person if he is willing to be the man who represents the Scottish People.

 

NAME LIST TO BE HANDED OVER TO THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE!


We have emailed the document for the name lists. These name lists will be handed over together with the writing.

Feel free to help collect names, we can all chose to collect as many as possible to put even more pressure on the authorities, and if we are unable to collect many names, we can still get the family, closest friends neigh boroughs and colleagues so sign.

Every Monday we need to get feed back on the name lists. All of us will scan the name lists and send them attached in email to mia.jansson1222@hotmail.com   we will print the lists out and attach them in the folder that will be handed over to the Minister of Justice. It is not all of us that have a scanner at home but most of us have friends that have or maybe we have at the place where we work.

The date, for the Mondays are;  

Monday 10 Nov

Monday 17 Nov

Monday 24 Nov

Monday 1 Dec


We will count the names and post the result here every monday

The increasing numbers will inspire us to collect even more.

Together we will make injustice visible
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear All!

We are all doing a great work! Many of us have started to print out the lists and have asked friends and colleagues to get names on their work, at the gym, at the local fuel station, the local shop etc etc...

We are awaiting the outcome from that and therefore we will not publish any numbers of names today.

The numbers of names will be put here next Monday 17Nov.

Today we also got the reply from Mr MacAskill´s secretary and we will receive the answer about date and time when Mr MacAskill can se us on Wednesday the 12 Nov.

As soon as we get the date and time we will send out the final Poster that we all can put up at all the suitable places and send out to all our contacts.

It is important that we ask if it is ok to put up the poster at noteboards etc, and it is important that we do not put the Poster at places where it is not allowed. This is something that we all know but it is still important to remember.  


Take care stay safe!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: The Silent Walk For Justice Reply with quote

Dear all of you supporting The Silent Walk For Justice.

Because of the defectiveness within the Crown Office and the Parliament administrations, our request from September 24 - for the Cabinet Secretary of Justice to meet with the participants of the Silent Walk For Justice -  was never sent to the Justice Department, but to Crown Office.

After repeating the request four times in writing, asking which day and time the first week in December that he will be able to meet with us and after calling Mr. MacAskill’s department daily the last three weeks, yesterday we were finally promised a reply for today Tuesday of his possible presence.

However after calling his private secretary today I was informed that. Mr. MacAskill has still not decided if he will meet with us or not.

Some hours ago we have therefore sent three final E-mails; to Mr. MacAskill, his private secretary and the Parliament, regarding that we need a reply at the latest tomorrow at 14.00 p.m. And if Mr. MacAskill will chose not to reply or does not want to meet with The Silent Walk For Justice, we will decide the date for the Walk ourselves and reserve a time for him to meet with us.

Take care, and you will hear from us tomorrow about the date and time.

Guje and Maria.

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