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Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 28

Have we reached the point where those responsible for administering justice think silence and integrity are the same things?

The most appauling thing is, we are in crisis, and we are expected to trust blindly, a perverse system that does not recognise that it is.

So, who is in charge? Who can change this?

Bryan Davies at A Search For Justice.

allan mcleod · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 157

Yes Bryan, this silence manifests itself everywhere.

Recently the Admin of the Scottish Prison Service informed me in writing that they do not keep records of prisoners movements when on day or weekend release.

We all know that they do.

It was a blatant lie to deceive of which Kevion Dunion the FOI Commissioner agreed to which he stated in his recent decision,---
" The records contain information that would allow confirmation of whether and if so, when the named prisoner had been granted temporary leave.
I must therefore disagree with the ministers assertion that the recorded information was insufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether the information was held.
I consider the SPS was wrong to inform Mr Mcleod that the information was no longer recorded".

It seems and appears compulsary for the authorities to mislead, lie and give false information to families that is fighting for justice.

We Wonder Why !!!

Al · Last edited by Al on Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:29 pm; edited 1 time in total

Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 28

Perhaps it's time we went political. Should we create a "Justice Party" ?

Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 263 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Bryan,

There is no way forward unless it is politically.

This is the only way change will result.

Those interested in change must make a case for it and that case must be politically supported.

Truth, logic, fairness and equity unfortunately have little to do with change unless the politicians pick it up.

Another reality is that justice/injustice is not really a high political priority and as a result issues like reducing the poll tax or university fees command much more attention.

These issues affect people directly. Injustice is a distant amorphous concept that only affects others. It is not seen as directly relevant to our daily lives.

I suggest that any prospective politician seriously interested in being elected would be well advised to campaign on a platform to reduce the council tax rather than to ensure that the truth about Lockerbie is known.

It is remarkable when you think about it but I cannot remember one successful political candidate standing on a justice platform.

Does this say it all?

Best wishes,

Iain

Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 28

Iain

Thanks for picking up on the issue of poll tax commanding political attention and being a platform to a seat in Scottish Government. Successful candidates, yes. Unfortunately, Council Tax, is still with us and rising alarmingly every year. Failures. Every one.

You asked me once why i do not have much regard for polititians. You answered the question far more graciously than I ever could.

As for a Scottish Justice Party? Keep the debate going folks.

Fondest regards
Bryan

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 167 Location: Edinburgh

Bryan

I think a read on how the SNP have reacted, or should I say, turned against Scotland over reforms to both the judiciary, access to justice, & reforms to the legal profession in last week's Scottish Parliament debate here :
http://scottishlaw.blogspot.com/2...turn-on-legal-market-reforms.html

If that debate and the responses from the Justice Secretary are a good indication of policy from the SNP, it looks like our current crop of politicians have not much desire to attend to issues of justice & injustice ....

If that is the case, and the Government have given up on Law, its time for minds to be changed ...
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Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 28

Peter

Thanks for the link. Likewise, I to am left with an deep uneasy feeling over that debate.

I am sure there is growing disquiet, among the general public over justice issues. Perhaps we are beginning to sense it's going badly wrong. like global warming. We have to pressure polititians to act before it goes beyond repair. Any ideas?

Regards

Bryan

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 167 Location: Edinburgh

Bryan

I think as far as Justice issues go in Scotland, at least on the merits of the debate I linked, the SNP are for all their promise in opposition, not the party to do much reforming, particularly when it comes to victims of injustice. This is the impression I get, at least, from the Justice Secretary's words.

I have to say, given the promise indicated to me from the previous administration of further reform (and lets not make any bones about it, it was the previous administration who actually passed the LPLA (Scotland) Act 2007 and started down the road of judicial reforms, I am deeply troubled by the Justice Secretary's about turn, almost, from his words, against the public, in favour of lawyers.

I agree we have to get politicians to change their mind, but I don't think we are going to change Mr MacAskills mind at all - after reading the way the debate went, which left no door open at all for resolving access to justice, or resolving injustice.

Rather than appeal to Ministers now, the focus should I think shift to Alex Salmond and put it on his head to change things for the better and resolve Scotland's problems. After all, he wanted it that way, Alex Salmond for First Minister, as the ballot says - so, if his Ministers are either out of control or too involved with their professions as to be lacking impartiality, it lands at Mr Salmond's door to fix the wrongs his own people refuse to heal.
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Al · Last edited by Al on Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:35 pm; edited 1 time in total