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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

My Wife & I attended Edinburgh University (The Raeburn Room Old College) to hand out leaflets about my case on Thursday

The reason for targetting this room inside the Uni was simply : There was a conference in Honour of Sir Gerald Gordon QC who sat on the board of SCCRC when they investigated my case 2001-2004.

http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/conferences/gordon/

We were told that someone complained of us standing at the only entrance to the Raeburn Room and were asked to go and ask for permission at the office of public relations who refused our request to stand within their grounds.

Two security guards appeared to make sure we left their property.

We could not stand at the main entrance to the Uni at South Bridge Street as scaffolding was being erected at the three entrances so we left.

So much for "Freedom Of Speech" and "Right To Roam Laws"

We returned later at 6pm for a Question Time with Bill Aitken, Robert Brown, Richard Baker and Angela Constance which was open to anyone with no need to book in advance, though I had sent two e-mails enquiring if there was any space available for my wife and I but got no answer.

See E-Mails here:

FW: Question Time Event‏
From: wullie beck (wulliebeck@hotmail.co.uk)
Sent: 11 June 2009 04:38:07
To: enquiries@sccjr.ac.uk

Hi

Because I have had no response to my e-mail enquiry of Tuesday 9th June 2009 please find it has again been forwarded here.

Thanks ever so kindly in anticipation.

Mr & Mrs William Beck

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From: wulliebeck@hotmail.co.uk
To: enquiries@sccjr.ac.uk
Subject: Question Time Event
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:31:16 +0000

Dear Sir/Madam

Can I possibly reserve two seats for the question time event at 6pm on Thursday 11th June 2009 on the Criminal Justice & Licensing (Scotland) Bill, in Lecture Theatre 175 of Old College.

Thanks In Anticipation

Mr & Mrs William Beck

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As I also understand matters someone else asked if there was any places available and they got an immediate response saying a seat was booked for them without even asking for one to be reserved.

"I wonder if the name Beck is "Flagged" up in their offices to ignore" ?

http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/conferences/gordon/questiontime.aspx

http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/conferenc...don/files/questiontimeleaflet.pdf

We all wrote our questions on a piece of paper and they had an hour and a half to answer all the questions.

My feelings are that instead of just picking random pieces of paper from the box they had already sorted the questions into perspective and order of asking, My paper came out second last, after a short speech that they might not get through all the questions.

Before the questions were asked all the board left the room with the box for at least ten minutes before returning hence the theory they had sorted out the questions.

Anyway they had plenty of time and when it came to my question I was asked if it had any relevance to the Criminal Justice Bill being discussed and after clarifying I had indeeed submitted some proposals for change I asked my Question:

Why is there no-one within the criminal justice system who deals with complaints levelled at members of the SCCRC and was this something the Justice Committee could look at.

There was some shaking of heads and shrugging of shoulders I must say and Bill Aitken answered saying this was not a simple straightforward issue and involved changing legislation which was not simple in itself.

Surely the proposals for change should be able to take on board this serious matter that a public body has no-one to whom appellants could complain.

Even our highest Judge in the country can be complained about.

Bill Aitken's answer really just confirmed for me they (The Justice Committee) would not entertain such complaints against this organisation yet they as Justice Committee have the responsibility to investigate matters of Justice.

Once again my targets were met.

We were able to hand Sir Gerald Gordon and some other delegates my leaflet and ask a question of Bill Aitken who keeps ducking my E-mails alomng with Richard Baker and Robert Brown.

I also got an opportunity to speak to the organiser James Chalmers who has done a review of Referred cases by SCCRC and ask him, in fairness should he not do a review of Non-Referred cases also, and handed him a copy of my Dossier which had been sent to Kenny MacAskill.

His review can be found here:

http://www.sccrc.org.uk/ViewFile.aspx?id=393

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scotkaz · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 527

You fairly get around Wullie and Louise:)

Fair play to you both for your tireless and dogged determination to clear your name.

I am glad you got the chance to put your questions to these people and in public . They might not want to answer the questions but other people in the audience also would have heard the questions being asked and not given a proper answer. Would make other people think about it to.

Your review is here: http://justiceforwulliebeck.webs.com/complainttomacaskill.htm for anyone who wants to see it.

You are a thorn in their side Wullie. Carry on being one because you are making a difference. You get up and do what you have to do and you support so many other people in everything you do. Keep up the excellent work. ! hugs
xx

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

Hi Scotkaz

Thanks for your comments.

The way I see it, to protest is to take it to their front door.

Sir Gerald Gordon actually took a leaflet from my Wife with a smile on his face probably expecting it to be something about him given the conference was in honour of him.

It was great to watch them squirming in anticipation of my question coming out, Just me being present made them uncomfortable.

Anyone thinking of protesting should do the same and watch for events coming up where the targets of their protests will be present.

There was only one entrance into the Raeburn Room so they all had to pass us and by the time people questioned us we had already handed out leaflets to people entering the conference.

A look at the delegates list shows the people attending, which were not many, only one page which can be viewed here:

http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/conferences/gordon/delegates.aspx

As well as Gerald Gordon having sat on the SCCRC Robin Johnston was present though his name does not appear to be attached to SCCRC but Fiona MacLean's does who has had nothing to do with the commission for years.

Robin Johnston is the person who dealt with my case as Senior Legal Officer within SCCRC (Very Badly I Must Add)

I am sure that Kenny MacAskill must do surgeries as well as Alex Salmond and the likes so anyone wanting to get their messages across to these people should do the same and meet them at their surgeries where there is nowhere for them to escape, Just a bit of advice for anyone with complaints.

If people really want to reach these people they should go for it, what is stopping them.
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scotkaz · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 527

Wullie I have been working on a site to help people campaign. It is a work in progress and if anyone has any links to add to it please let me know.

http://www.howtocampaign.webs.com/

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

Scotkaz

What a great idea to help people understand how to campaign.

I am sure many will take some help and ideas from the site you have made and perhaps set up their own campaigns.

I have found the following which will be very useful:

In Glasgow people will respond to posters and come over asking what the protest is about and take as much info you can give them.

In Edinburgh they turn their noses up and are less keen to get involved in protests but are likely to take leaflets from people who appear to be well dressed and nicely spoken.

Different places different cultures.

I am sure many on this forum would just love the opportunity to get to ask some politicians questions like myself, Questions from Politicians and MSPs who for many years have ignored the interests of their constituents and the likes.

Go for it, set your sights and aims and just go.

Perhaps it is time for all to come together and support each other which is possible and to do one campaign at a time.

Rise up and be counted anything is possible
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scotkaz · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 527

david · Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 52 Location: edinburgh

wullie

Not surprised people in Edinburgh are less willing to take leaflets etc than their Glasgow counterparts.

I firmly believe that innocent people have more of a chance being found innocent by a Glasgow jury compared to an Edinburgh jury too. Edinburgh morality is different. Police officers don't lie, women don't have sex with more than one man at the same time and so on. Glaswegians are more robust in spoting lies.

I believe that if my trial was in Glasgow then I would have got a not guilty.

David

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

David

I agree with you entirely.

The people of Edinburgh still think everyone in Glasow runs about with Open Razors, hence some of Glasow's major trials are now taking place in Edinburgh and the likes where they are more likely to be found guilty. (Under the guise of protecting Witness's and Jurors)

Keep up the fight, I truely believe in your case and hope the Innocent hurry up and take up your case.

You could I believe go back to the Commission with the other issues we have found, and I would be willing to help you lodge other grounds on these issues if you wanted to.

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