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SEE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE FOR ORIGINAL COMPLAINT TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER AT THE SCOTTISH PARLIAMENT

From: PresidingOfficers@scottish.parliament.uk

Dear Mr. ***********

Thank you for your e-mails of 5 and 6 May in response to the
consideration by the Public Petitions Committee (PPC) of petition PE1247
on the introduction of a McKenzie friend facility in Scottish courts.
This petition was discussed by the PPC at its meeting on Tuesday 5 May.

I will address your 5 May e-mail and your specific comments about the
petitions process. The consideration and discussion of petitions is for
the Convener and members of the PPC and not for me as Presiding Officer.
I therefore attach the views of the Convener of the PPC who has seen a
copy of your e-mail.

With regards your e-mail of 6 May, I have nothing to add.

Yours sincerely

ALEX FERGUSSON

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Dear Presiding Officer,

Thank you giving me the opportunity to respond to the points which Mr ********* makes in his e-mail to you. I obviously do not accept any of these. I am aware of the disappointment of those petitioners who do not get the opportunity to present their petition orally to the Committee (Mr ******** is not the petitioner). In selecting which petitioners to invite, I am mindful of topicality amongst other factors. That Mr ******** describes our consideration of the petition on safe standing at football stadia as ‘frivolous’ I think is an irresponsible comment to make given the recent 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough tragedy. I think that this was indeed a good opportunity to discuss and hear from that petitioner on this matter.

Nor do I accept that hearing from the petitioner about the real anxiety, worry and anger felt by too many people as a result of anti-social behaviour in party/holiday flats and the need for improvements to be made in the regulation of these to be a ‘frivolous’ matter.

I understand that the petitioner behind the McKenzie friend petition has broadly welcomed our consideration and handling of his petition so far, including the outcome of our discussion last week although I know he was disappointed at not being given the opportunity to make an oral presentation. I do not propose responding to the general comments Mr ********* makes about the petitions process other than to say they are unfounded and ill-informed. The petitioners behind the petitions on access to cancer treatment drugs, tackling knife crime, improving school bus safety, and many others would not, I am sure, accept his view.

Frank McAveety MSP
Convener, Public Petitions Committee

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Dear Presiding officer

Thank you for your response but it comes as NO surprise your comments including Frank McAveety's response to our concerns and the many victims of injustice I speak on behalf of.

Mr McAveety is fairly typical of the thuggish and bullying behaviour that goes on at the football matches he frequents and supports. He along with previous bullyboys like Mr McMahon represent a desire by the Scottish Parliaments MSP's to undermine ANY dissenter of the Scottish justice system that is a multi-billion pound scam that Mr. McAveety and his associates have supported throughout their political careers at the Scottish Parliament.

I previously sent you a link to the recent Scotsman article were the second highest judge in Scotland has openly admitted that Scottish civil justice is Victorian in the following article.

SENIOR JUDGE HITS OUT AT SCOTLAND'S VICTORIAN COURT SYSTEM
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s...nior-judge-hits-out-at.5250755.jp

It is because of MSP's like Mr. McAveety and the many other MSP's who have throughout the devolved parliament supported such a system and have attempted on many occasions to demean and denigrate those who have tried to raise this at the Scottish Parliament in particular at the public petitions, where I have been personally insulted many times by MSP's who are up to their neck in sleaze, corruption and in the pockets of the Law Society of Scotland.

Please inform Mr. McAveety that victims like ourselves who have had their lives destroyed by that system are organised and will ensure Scotland, through our many forums, will be informed of how Mr McAveety and his fellow MSP's have allowed that Victorian court system to flourish by failing Scotland time and again in forums such as the Public Petitions he now CONTROLS.

We have some of the most expert writers, web designers and technically adept scholars who Mr. McAveety and his political mafia friends should be fully aware of and that they WILL NOT, repeat NOT, allow Scotland to continue to be ruled by the tyranny in those courts.
He did not provide an adequate answer as to the historical petitions of hedgehog culling and the Scottish flag petitions for fear of him LOOKING every bit as stupid and inane as is what exactly this petitions committee has become, a talking shop to thwart REAL change in Scotland.

Please ensure Mr. McAveety that the numpties that hide behind their MSP status and who have a long history of turning a blind eye to the thousands of families damaged every year in these hell holes, that are classed as civil courts, will in time catch up with them and he is clearly unaware of the mass rising of Scots against a devolved settlement that is a complete and utter waste of time in failing Scotland for far to long. The Lord Gill article shows clearly Mr. McAveety and his fellow MSPs are totally responsible for this, despite endless inquiries the Scottish Parliament has carried out and Mr McAveety himself was party to.

The tide is turning and the major political parties that have ALL conspired to undermine the Scottish public to the tune of billions of pounds in lost assets and homes in these utter dens of inquity will ensure Mr. McAveety and associates will also in time lose the hold they have over this parliament in the foreseeable future . Our groups and the many contacts we have will make damn sure of that.

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ORIGINAL EMAIL TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER

Subject: PUBLIC PETITIONS ARE A LAUGHING STOCK
Date: Tue, May 5, 2009 4:14 pm
To: Alex.Fergusson.msp@scottish.parliament.uk
Cc: Franck.David@scottish.parliament.uk

Attention of the Presiding Officer

I write to express my utter disgust at how the petitions committee are
undermining the petitions system as a whole, guaging FRIVOLOUS petitions
worthy of their time far more than serious issues.
As spokesperson for legal groups with many victims of Scottish injustice I
make the following points in that their judgement is turning this
committee into a laughing stock. As while committee members, who use this
time to discuss issues relating to their hobbies i.e. standing at
football grounds, to the extent they judge that petition warrants 30
minutes and the petitioners allowed to give evidence .

While the far more serious issue of failure to get representation in court
by Mr Stewart MacKenzie, who has NOT been allowed to give oral
presentation and the committee judge 10 minutes as sufficient time for
maybe one of the most serious issues to be raised in this parliament. I
attach a recent article that has been circulated widely across Scotland
and across the globe to our extensive network of contacts.

While this committee pontificate about frivolous issues including from the
past such as hedgehog culling and the exact colour of the Scottish flag
we are nauseated by the disgraceful waste of MSP's time and the large
salaries they receive while failing dysmally to accurately guage the mood
of the Scottish public.
I would state Scottish msp's are nothing but buffoons who have failed
Scotlands people time and again especially those who now operate in the
petitions committee.
Holyrood is turning into a laughing stock when we know many of those
msp's are in the pockets of the Law Society of Scotland as proven by Bill
Butlers typically negative comments on that petition today.

I timed approximately how long each petition was heard for and the stats
are as follows.

PP meeting 5 may 2009

PE1248 APROX. TIME SPENT 30 minutes

PE1249 APROX. TIME SPENT 30 minutes

PE1245 APROX. TIME SPENT 3 minutes

PE1246 APROX. TIME SPENT 4 minutes

PE1247 APROX. TIME SPENT 10 minutes

I write to the presiding officer seeking an investigation into why a
decision was made by the committee as a whole to give approx. 1/3 of the
time to discuss PE 1247 compared to PE 1248. Shocking and a shambles due
to the thousands of lives every year destroyed thanks to the illegal legal
MONOPOLY this committee have continued to support throughout this
parliament.

YOURS IN DISGUST

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Two years on ... an appraisal of Scottish "Justice"

It is now fully two years since Scotland elected a minority SNP
Government, under very dubious circumstances – remember the wasted 150,000
votes? Salmond became Scotland’s new First Minister and he quickly
appointed his shoe-in Cabinet Secretary for Justice, MacAskill, as the
person to head Scotland’s Justice Department and to initiate the
much-needed legal reforms that Scotland’s beleaguered justice system
demanded. We knew pretty much from the outset that we were going to be in
for more of the same when Salmond and MacAskill appointed Elish Angiolini,
who had been at the Scottish Crown Office for many years, as Scotland’s
"new" Lord Advocate.

Over these past two years (730 days) many cases of injustice and
miscarriages of justice have been highlighted on this forum and these
cases have been drawn to the attention of Salmond and MacAskill (and
Angiolini), but they have done nothing to intervene, investigate and help
those who have approached them with their cases of injustice – many dating
back several years and which should have been resolved long before they
scraped to power on Friday 4 May 2007.

It is now glaringly obvious that we have a Scottish Government who are in
bed with the legal establishment (Law Society, Scottish Crown Office,
SCCRC etc) and there are simply far too many vested interests at play for
there to ever be any major legal reforms. MacAskill, being a former
lawyer, certainly knows where his interests are … and it is not in
pursuing the truth and justice for you or me I’m afraid … especially when
your case involves exposing criminality, wrong-doing, corruption and
injustice with the legal profession, police, local authorities, Law
Society, Scottish Crown Office, SCCRC and any other Scottish establishment
organisations he is in bed with.

I am apolitical and am not affiliated to any political party, so this is
not a vendetta against the SNP. I have no time for any of our politicos
at Holyrood or Westmister now and don’t feel any of the 129 at Holyrood
are interested or concerned enough about injustice in Scotland … because
it doesn’t serve their interests to be too critical and outspoken about
injustice at the hands of all the organisations mentioned above, and
MacAskill himself of course.

I wish everyone who is pursuing justice for themselves, their friends and
their loved ones well and hope that somehow, someday, you all achieve the
truth and justice you seek, find some peace of mind and can pick up the
fragmented pieces of often ruined and broken lives that Scotland’s corrupt
justice system has changed forever.

Shame on Salmond and MacAskill … who will never help you when it comes to
injustice in Scotland … too many vested interests at play, and that will
always be the case.

__________

Below is an Open Letter to MacAskill that I received the other week.
Perhaps you should all consider sending it to MacAskill (highlighting your
own cases of injustice as well) to see what reaction you get …

Kenny MacAskill MSP
Cabinet Secretary "for Justice"
Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh
EH99 1SP

Kenny.MacAskill.msp@scottish.parliament.uk

Dear Mr MacAskill

In the 23 months [two years] since your appointment by Alex Salmond (the
First Minister of Scotland) as Cabinet Secretary "for Justice", could you
please inform us exactly what good you have done for your constituents of
Edinburgh East and Musselburgh who appointed you, and Scotland's 5,000,000
population as a whole?

As far as we have seen you are simply helping and protecting your 10,000
fellow solicitors, the Law Society, legal "profession" as a whole and the
Edinburgh and Scottish establishment in general.

Certainly, in the many cases of wrong-doing, corruption and injustice
involving local government, the police, YOUR legal "profession" and many
other groups and organisations in Scotland, you have done nothing for
those "malcontents" who have approached you (often pleading for your help)
seeking the TRUTH and JUSTICE in their individual cases of injustice at
the hands of corrupt and crooked individuals and organisations you are
only too well aware of yourself.

Are you a protector of the Edinburgh and Scottish establishment
(especially YOUR legal "profession") and indifferent to the plight of
those who approach you with their cases of injustice seeking your help?

Confirm or deny please.

Looking forward to your response.