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Al



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: No justice in Scotland under Alex Salmond and the SNP Reply with quote

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Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

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kevin donald



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

I can agree i have contacted quite a few  Politician's  regarding Brendan
and have spoken to a few high up ones in Northern ireland and  Scotland
the ones that seem interested are not SNP.

yesterday Brendan got a mandate from a minister who has a high ranking position
in London.
and wants to go over all the paperwork as he has a legal background i hope  when he goes over it he will see a Miscarraige of justice has happened in Brendans case.

do i trust the SNP?
well i thought they were going to blow away the cobwebs from our justice system but it has not happened yet.

WILL IT, I DONT KNOW.
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Al



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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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PeterCherbi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

nice to see you back, but sad to see these issues remain unresolved.

It surely doesn't take too much to be seen to do the right thing, and ignoring the plight of the person in the case you are referring to, is definitely not doing the right thing on the part of the Justice Secretary or the First Minister.

Perhaps as people are now suggesting and you have mentioned, a gathering at Bute House may be a way to get some attention to issues of injustice which do need to be dealt with rather than be allowed to drag on simply because some are so insidiously profiting from the plight of people suffering injustice.
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Al



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al & Kev

It is possible to organise a protest but what will it achieve ?

How many will Attend ?

What publicity will it get ?

While I have support from an SNP MSP in the shape of Bill Kidd I must agree that MacAskill is not fit the job he is tasked with.

His silence on many issues of injustice speaks volumes and most noteably Lockerbie.

His silence on the way our Judiciary is being run also speaks volumes while one appeal is allowed others with the exact same grounds are being cast aside because it is not in the interests of the justice system to allow them for one reason or another.

It seems no matter what grounds of appeal you have it all comes down to who you are complaining of.

I support a call for a change of "Justice Minister"

Sorry Mr MacAskill but your time and support for your lawyer Colleagues must come to an end, if you are not prepared to go against them and stand up for truth, openness, accountabilty and fairness.

Yes I would support a protest outside the residence of our first minister to highlight the many cases coming to this forum but it must at all times be peaceful.

We need a justice minister who is not a Lawyer and therefore not duty bound by law Society rules and regulations.
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Al



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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PeterCherbi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly think this idea should be followed through, but I wonder if a "Vigil for Injustice" outside Bute House as a continuing theme might be more productive, as well as a protest too of course.

It is time to publicise the levels of injustice in Scotland and something must now be done about it rather than letting things drag on, because the writing is on the wall these politicians would rather swagger around in office than actually attend to issues they are for the main responsible for causing in the first place.
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Al



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Protest at Charlotte Square Reply with quote

Al, Peter, Kevin and the many more who write here about injustice's.

There must be no half baked attempts here, We must get this organized properly.

Everyone must give 110% or no point in even continuing the debate on whether to go with it or not.

All or nothing.

People must be prepared to camp outside Bute House if the need be.

I order to get the show on the road posters must be made, Flyers ready to hand out to unsuspecting public members who have no idea what we will be calling for.

I would suggest that people make their own flyers regarding their own cases to dish out highlighting our blogs etc etc.

I would also suggest we make disclosure one of our main aims.

Anyway this will not happen until we have the bodies guaranteed and confirmed who on the forum and elsewhere is willing to participate.

Numbers need to be confirmed before I am willing to even consider making any flyers or posters.

Maybe we could even take out an advert of some sort and highlight it in Herald and Scotsman's comments pages ?


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