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allan mcleod · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 157

It would be interesting to see how many people know, believe or suspect Freemason involvment exsists within the Scottish Justice System.

I for one without doubt truely believe the collousion of freemasonary does exsists within the justice system.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news...ays-disgraced-dad-86908-20622306/

Big Mac · Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Glasgow

[b]I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR ALLAN MCLEOD AND HS QUEST TO FIND THE TRUTH RELATING TO KEVIN.
HOWEVER I AM AT A LOSS TO UNDERSTAND HIS COMMENTS ON THIS POST....MY UNDERSTANDING OF COLLUDE ...."IS TO ACT TOGETHER SECRETLY OR ILLEGALLY IN ORDER TO CHEAT SOMEONE" ....UNLESS THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT IS NOT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE HOW CAN YOU DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A FREEMASON AND ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ?....I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FREEMASONS AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE THEY FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF KNOWLEDGE AND ARE PLEDGED TO HELP IN CHARITABLE WAYS AND TO HELP THE PUBLIC AT LARGE ......MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMETHINGS THAT I DONT , WHICH FORMULATES YOUR THOUGHTS ....I WOULD BE KEEN TO SEE SOME OPINIONS ON THIS
MATT

Nought Justice · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Edinburgh

matt

maybe it was martians and not masons

are you saying masons will go against each other

are you saying this type of thing does not happen within this masons group

what exactly do you want to know

your mason friends would be willing to show you how they shake hands then would they

they will show you how to ask another mason for help etc will they

perhaps they might introduce you to their top men in their lodges.

I have really heard it all before and can conclude they are all like lawyers who will not go against each other.

aha the penny has dropped now was this the reason your nephew got his disclosure while others are still fighting

Nought Justice · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 39 Location: Edinburgh

alan

the judiciary are full of members of the speculative society too

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/specsoc_membership.html

robbie knows he was up against them

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2776409.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Speculative_Society

http://www.firstfoot.com/scotchmyth/ssoemembers.htm

http://www.firstfoot.com/scotchmyth/ssoe.htm

Big Mac · Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Glasgow

Naught Justice

I am not interested in hand shakes or asking for help etc. What surprises
me is the conspiracy theories that get some people wound up .
Oh and as a matter if interest and relation to your sarcastic comment about my nephew . I would remind you why we are on this site (hope fully to assist people in similar positions )
My Nephew was promised the disclosures which he asked for ie partial disclosure The QC at the hearings in August and November demanded full disclosures (not partial ) for the other seven And you can retract your dropping penny as the promise has not been fullfilled some seven months on . Maybe we should try and find the Speculative society for help

gustav51 · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 16

Interesting debate. There is no doubt 'hegemony' i.e. a power elite who look after each others' interests, exists in society. I believe freemasonary is an integral part of this as it partly explains why nepotism is still rife in society. Individuals are promoted well beyond their capabilities and this why some senior officials, eg Chief Constables, NHS bosses, Law Officers etc. are virtually untouchable and unaccountable for their actions. There is always a 'scapegoat' to be found for their ineptitudes.I suspect a fear culture exists in freemasonary and paradoxically the solidarity of their membership thrives on the fear of punishment should anyone speak out. What is the purpose of a secret society if it is not for self-preservation when 'things go wrong' for one of its' members?

allan mcleod · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 157

COP USED MASONIC LINKS TO COVER UP HIS CRIMES.

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg69239.html

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

I swore not to get involved in this topic, but feel i must just add the following since no-one else has.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest-s...iller-39linked-to-arms.4236594.jp

Did the Masons also plant all this ammo in the car park.

Lets face the facts of this case folks before jumping any bandwagons.

Not the actions of an Innocent man I would suggest, Planting such a stash of weapons.
What a messs he could have made with such too.

Like Matt i have family and friends that are masons and I would never expect them to act in such an oppresssive manner that we see present in so many cases of Injustice.

Yes there is a culture to hide their mistakes rather than admit the truth.

Yes there is a culture to spend thousands covering their mistakes, but I feel this is more to do with them being afraid of public opinion should they admit their errors than to do with Masons.

Personally I think they would be better thought of if they could admit their wrongdoing and mistakes rather than continue to deny it and continue the oppression.

They would not be "Human" if they did not make mistakes, Do they want us to believe they are not Human ?

To Err Is Human