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PeterCherbi

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Scottish Legal Complaints Commission |
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I would just like to inform readers of the appointments to the new Scottish Legal Complaints Commission, which will start later this year investigating "service" complaints against the legal profession ...
The post of chairman of the SLCC has, surprisingly or not, been filled by the outgoing Scottish Legal Services Ombudsman, Jane Irvine.
I am slightly taken aback by that, as the SLSO's office has over the years, done little for client rights against the poor regulatory practices of the Law Society of Scotland.
It doesn't look like the public have been listened too much in the appointments process, but that may well come down to what one civil servant termed "massive interference from the Law Society" against the SLCC over the past year since the Legal Profession & Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 2007, was passed.
You can read the Scottish Government's release on the SLCC appointments here :
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2008/01/10100426
and the Scotsman coverage of the story here:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s...al-watchdog-roles-for-.3662908.jp
I would have to say I am rather disappointed that people who have experienced the horrors of self regulation of the legal profession, were quickly kicked out of the appointments process, apparently on demands from the legal profession itself ...
If a Legal Services Ombudsman can stand back and let something like this : http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...negligence-insurance-branded.html
go on for years, I doubt she is that well qualified to become the new chair of what was to be a more independent complaints regulatory body .. unless of course, she plans to clean up the sins of the past, which I doubt.
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Big Wullie
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PeterCherbi

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Big Wullie
It looks to me like the SNP have either given up on the justice issue altogether, or simply fail to understand it .. of course there's always the possibility their strings are being pulled by the very legal establishment figures that such reforms will inevitably hurt ...
In any case, the way the SLCC formation process has been handled to date, does not give confidence to the public for more accountable legal services.
It may even be the case this is a warning to people simply not to do legal business in Scotland and I do not say that lightly.
After all, if the legal services market, and regulatory side of things isn't put right, then why should people trust the legal profession with their business at all in an unsafe and untrustworthy environment where clients (both private & corporate) finances are at stake of no recompense when things frequently go wrong.
You can see a slightly more in depth article on the SLCC appointments situation here :
http://scottishlaw.blogspot.com/2...retary-fails-public-interest.html _________________ My blog on issues of injustice in Scotland A Diary of Injustice in Scotland by Peter Cherbi
Injustice Scotland Campaign website : Injustice Scotland |
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Al

Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
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Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
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... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
_________________ Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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PeterCherbi

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Al
Actually there are further developments in that one of the lawyer members appointed by Mr MacAskill is the husband of a Court of Session Judge.
The particular lawyer concerned also is heavily involved with the "Master Insurance Policy" of the Law Society of Scotland, which is one of the areas that has caused a lot of the injustice between the public and lawyers, which ultimately sees anyone who takes issue with the legal profession denied access to justice.
You can view a short clip on how an honourable member of the SNP Government exposed the corruption & access to justice problems I speak of relating to the "Master Insurance Policy" here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBKwGzeKtEE
I would say for the avoidance of any doubt, I am only posting this topic & further information to the forum as an example of how access to justice in Scotland is manipulated & controlled by a few, against the majority.
As people who need to resolve issues of injustice for now need access to legal services, that control over access to legal services, which remains firmly in the grip of the legal establishment for now, will to a certain extent have to be broken.
There are those within the legal profession who understand that themselves, and not all of the legal profession are happy about their governing body's policy towards the rest of us in these matters. Sadly though, the new Scottish Legal Complaints Commission, as it stands, will not prove to be the representing body for the public to ensure their rights are addressed, which the public needs - and that is where campaigners such as us will have to kick in ...
I am sure, I hope at least, that when the conference starts, and more attention is drawn to these issues, the public's unrestricted right to justice should shine again in Scotland. It is our right, and our expectation as it should be every person's right and expectation, without prejudice or prevarication. _________________ My blog on issues of injustice in Scotland A Diary of Injustice in Scotland by Peter Cherbi
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Big Wullie
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Peter
Control and manipulation by a few, Are we to be sure that Mr MacAskill knows for sure the stuff you are bringing to our attention.
For instance is he aware of the link between the High Court Judge and the law Society Lawyer.
Their independence in appointing these type of members certainly needs more investigation.
For instance who appoints these members ? and what checks are made on their independence ?
A bit like the Watson fella too ? _________________ http://justiceforwulliebeck.webs.com/index.htm
http://williambeck.blogspot.com/
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Big Wullie
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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The Oppression Begins.
I have heard from Peter that Flickr have cancelled his account.
They have deleted all his photos without any prior warning.
Cancelled his account without any form of excuse.
I wonder if they have had any complaints? Will be interesting to see their reply to Peters request for details of why they cancelled his account.
This will not stop people like us showing the world exactly what goes on within our Judicial System etc.
There are plenty other ways and sites willing to allow the same sort of stuff and we can even open our own websites.
Oppression will never win, Everything will out one way or another.
Keep up the good work Peter _________________ http://justiceforwulliebeck.webs.com/index.htm
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Al

Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
__________
Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
__________
... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
_________________ Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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Big Wullie
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: Douglas Mills to Resign |
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Mills to resign.
Peter has done a great job of covering this story and writes here:
http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/ about the resignation of him.
I must agree with peter but in order to remain independent i sought another view.
http://www.ianfraser.org/?p=413
It would seem he will not be missed but some cant see it coming soon enough.
One thing is for sure though, He couldn't handle the thought of losing power. |
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PeterCherbi

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Hi Wullie
Yes, an interesting development, and Mr Mill goes only a couple of days before the new Scottish Legal Complaints Commission starts it work in October ...
Link to my article here :
http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...aking-news-law-society-chief.html
Personally, I think what won the day was the video of the confrontation between John Swinney and Douglas Mill at the Justice 2 Committee in the Scottish Parliament, when the Law Society Chief Executive, reported by the Herald and a few others, misled not only Mr Swinney but the Justice 2 Committee itself in its inquiry into the LPLA Bill (now passed into law).
One thing is to tell a lie on paper, and get away with it for years - as many of those who suffer injustice know very well & experience daily .. but its quite another thing to tell a lie on camera, to a now serving senior member of the Government who went the extra mile on this issue for constituents ...
I do hope with the departure of Mr Mill, the public witch hunts for particular clients or critics who dare take issue with the legal profession over regulatory policies, will come to an end, and people will be allowed to get on with their lives, properly recompensed for these sins of the past, and without having to fear the constant intimidation which has been associated with many cases which have been brought to my attention or that of other journalists over the years - just because someone disputed the quality of their legal representatives.
I trust Mr Swinney will now go that bit further, and see this issue through to the end, ensuring the pile of cases which the Law Society has deliberately mishandled, or denied people access to justice, will be resolved in some form of lasting resolution which will in itself help repair the damaged relationship between the public and the legal profession - which would be good for Scotland as a whole.
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