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Al

Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: Threatening phone calls ... enough is enough |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
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Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
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When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
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... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
_________________ Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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freethekillie2

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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AL That is sad to hear.
PHONE bt. and ask for some answers
and the good police division where it was
also did you try 1471?
it show you are getting to people when things like this happen i would not walk away from it .
also get a lawyer involved it is easy for them to get phone records ect.
all the best Al! |
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allan mcleod
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 157
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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AL, - Kevin Mcleod Case-
I too received 2 Threatning Phone calls in 2003, (one recorded) BT traced the calls,(both different mobiles) 2 local Detectives took a statement from me, saying it was looking good to bring charges, they travelled to Wick, then returned a week later saying that unfortunately the 2 persons they questioned were "streetwise" and therefore could not bring charges, but that they did submit a report to the PF, who then stated there was not enough evidence to bring charges. (Strange)
Very Suspicious I believe. Traced the calls, and the owners of the mobile phones
Questioned those responsible, No Charges. (The Mind Boggles)
No doubt you too have annoyed a person/s with your determined campaign for justice. |
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Al

Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
__________
Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
__________
... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
_________________ Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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Bryan
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Al
FTK2 gives sound advice. Please, Please, Al, try and secure the phone records. Other than a crank call, this is a recognition that there is substance in what you are saying.
Best wishes,
Bryan. |
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freethekillie2

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes so true Bryan, and allan .threats are seen as the weakness of the ones we are up against
the phone records can be recieved from bt it costs about 15 pounds that show all witheld numbers.
also i would get this old lady to file a police comment so that it makes it easier,
that coming from me who does not trust them.
threats happen to us all and will still happen when we get near the truth
but if you walk away that is what they want.
KEEP THE FIGHT ALL!
never let them get you down.
keep up the good work Al |
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Big Wullie
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149
Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Despicable Behavior
Anyone that threatens an old person deserves the biggest sentence going.
This is usually their last ditch attempt to stop the rot and halt proceedings against them.
It also shows they are running "Scared"
Do not give in to threats.
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Al

Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
__________
Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
__________
... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
_________________ Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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PeterCherbi

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 167
Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Hi Al
Sorry to hear about this, but good to hear that BT have been alerted and will act accordingly.
It's amazing what they can do these days, and since phone records just like everything else are kept eternally, I don't think they will have too much trouble locating the caller if BT put their minds to it.
I have had this myself too, along with some rather nasty threats ....
It seems just about everyone who has had cause to complain against a profession, or public body has had similar experience, particularly when a politician is involved ... although I recall that when I was working on the Scottish Borders Council £4million education budget fraud, some people went to extraordinary lengths on the telephone to see who was giving me information ...
When people are desperate, they tend to do desperate things, so whoever is getting these calls, I wish them all my best and pledge my help. _________________ My blog on issues of injustice in Scotland A Diary of Injustice in Scotland by Peter Cherbi
Injustice Scotland Campaign website : Injustice Scotland |
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Iain McKie
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 263
Location: Ayr, Scotland.
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Al,
Sound advice re tracing and monitoring calls.
As you will be aware after so many letters it is unlikely you are going to achieve your goal without a change of tactics.
Without knowledge of the case I cannot give any advice but I would be pleased to help if you wish to contact me privately.
Best wishes,
Iain
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