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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

According to the link below there is a petition to get rid of Kenny MacAskill but I cannot find it to pass it about.

Does anyone have a link or are the record talking nonsense ?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news...-get-rid-of-kenny-86908-21400426/

Petition launched to sack justice secretary over open prisons row
May 30 2009

LABOUR yesterday launched a public petition calling for under-fire justice secretary Kenny MacAskill to be sacked.

It will be included on tens of thousands of Euro election leaflets.

The move follows mounting anger over the SNP government's handling of two dangerous criminals who went on the run from Castle Huntly open prison, near Dundee.

Armed robber Brian Martin, known as "The Hawk", finally gave himself up last week but - as MacAskill admitted - he should not have been in an open prison because of his record.

And yesterday, it emerged that convicted murderer John Brown had also gone on the run from Castle Huntly.

Salmond and MacAskill were told of the escape but kept quiet about it, saying it was a matter for police to alert the public.

Hammer Yesterday, the government confirmed MacAskill had approved hammer killer Brown's home leave from Castle Huntly.

But MacAskill told the BBC yesterday he would "absolutely not" resign over the scandal.

Labour justice spokesman Richard Baker said: "Anyone would have thought that as Kenny MacAskill signed the temporary release order for John Brown that he'd have acted immediately when he absconded.

"Instead, he sat next to Alex Salmond at First Minister's Questions and watched his boss mislead parliament."

Meanwhile, Scots Tory leader Annabel Goldie also accused Salmond of "misleading parliament".

Salmond's spokesman insisted it was an "operational matter for Tayside police" to alert the public that Brown was on the run.

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scotkaz · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 526

wullie

I have had a look and cannot find the petition mentioned.

I also have a pile of Voting leaflets from everyone who wants our vote and there is no link on there either
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Kieran Ferguson · Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 4

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Angeline · Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 146

I've just had a look at the "boycott scotland" website, and, although I do feel for the families who believe Megrahi was guilty, I can't help but think there's a huge display of double standards here.

Firstly, all the nonsense about putting oil before people's lives - of course, the American government has never done any such thing - perish the thought.

Then there's all the talk about "justice" and "guilt," missing the point completely that the SCCRC had referred the case back to the appeal court, which it wouldn't have done unless there were serious doubts about the safety of the conviction.

Then the hysteria - boycott Scottish businesess, don't visit scotland, boycott BP etc, etc, studiously ignoring the fact that the US do not intend to try to block a visit by Gadaffi to the UN next month.

They speak of the irony of the UK having been the victim of numerous terrorist attacks "on its own soil" - two points here - (1) - who funded many of those attacks???? (2) where did Pan Am 103 explode, and the pieces land ?

One relative is quoted as saying

''I would like this fellow, before he breathes his last breath, to tell us the story,'' said Helen Engelhardt, whose husband, Tony Hawkins, was killed on the plane. ''We need the truth. We need to know what really happened.''

On that one point, at least, we have agreement.
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Angeline · Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 146

Incidentally, Keiran refers to the petition on boycott scotland as a "respose by the Scottish people to the terrible decision made my Mr McAskill" - what, are we to believe the Scottish people are calling for a boycott against themselves???
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Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 262 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

I would like to align myself with Angeline's comments.

Aside from any debate about whether Kenny MacAskill was right or wrong the hypocrisy and double standards on display by the UK and US governments is truly staggering.

Having done little over the years to assist in revealing the truth about Lockerbie - remember the British government’s claims of public interest immunity over documents required by Mr Al Megrahi's defence – they have the audacity to criticise the Scottish Government and the Scottish people for exercising humanity.
http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com...and-public-interest-immunity.html

It might be that we have lessons to learn in the aftermath of this affair but certainly not from these two duplicitous and dishonest governments.

Kieran Ferguson · Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 4

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Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 262 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Hi Kieran,

Thanks for that however your posting advertises the 'Boycott Scotland' site and your petition is linked on that site. This indicates your support for the sentiments expressed by the Americans.

I have absolutely no problem with your voicing your concerns and anger, some of which I can understand, but in focussing in on the decision to free a dying man as reasons to dismiss Mr MacAskill I cannot follow your logic.

If you want to raise a petition outlining the failures of governments at home and abroad to address the issues of Lockerbie over the years and the failure of our Scottish Justice System to protect the innocent then my signature is guaranteed.

Calling for Mr MacAskill's resignation is not going to right these wrongs and effectively to my mind focuses attention away from the real wrongdoers who must be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of the Scottish Government being identified as fall guys for their deceit and failure.

Best wishes,

Iain

Kieran Ferguson · Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 4

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