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Iain McKie



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Location: Ayr, Scotland.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Radio Scotland - 'Is the current judicial system working  Reply with quote

Next Monday 4 February BBC Radio Scotland poses the question, 'Is the current judicial system working in Scotland and if not, why not and what can be done?'

Things kick off with a trailer for the day at 8.20 am and between 8.50 and 9.30 am the 'Morning Extra with Gary Robertson' programme is devoted to the topic and will include a phone in hopefully involving Kenny MacAskill. At mid-day there will be another insert possibly involving Alex Salmond.

For programme information:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/rad...es/morningextrawithgaryrobertson/

(An e-mail link is provided on this page and my understanding is you can intimate your interest in the programme and briefly outline your story by e-mail. Provide a telephone number in case they want to phone you back)

To listen to the programme live:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/ma...bc.co.uk/radio/aod/scotland.shtml

To take part in the phone in call 0500 92 95 00, text 80295 or e-mail Morning Extra from about 8 am.
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Al



Joined: 12 May 2007
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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

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Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recent non disclosure in the Brendan Dixon appeal shows our system up for what it is?
Even more so the fact that they are refusing to air in public their opinion for the refusal to allow Counsel to take the case to Privy Council.
It beggars belief that this opinion is withheld blocking any further appeal against this.

My understanding in all cases is this:
Anyone who appears in court for any reason is therefore entitled to see the minutes and or Interlocutor, These basically all now come by way of tape recordings.
Brendan Dixon is entitled to see or hear these make sure he asks.

Under Holland And Sinclair which our courts are bound, full disclosure must be made to the defence teams at every trial and not just Exculpatory evidence.
Are they afraid to get their knuckles wrapped again? Then why not conform and allow disclosure.

By refusing this disclosure our courts are also in breach of sections 6,1 & 6,3 of EcHR our rights to a fair hearing. Equality of arms is a must.

Will our justice Minister (Secretary) now make sure our Courts abide by the Law ?
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PeterCherbi



Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Edinburgh

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Iain, Al & Big Wullie

Thanks for the info on the BBC Radio programme.

Garry Robertson does a fine show - I once was on it myself in 2001 to discuss complaints against the legal profession, facing two members of the Law Society who gave a less than convincing performance to their argument all was well.

I hope the programme goes well and all take part with questions etc.

All the best, and well, at least for my opinion, the Justice system certainly, and sadly, is not working - and the people who are there with the responsibility to make it work, are not currently doing a very good job of it at all.

Where there is a will, there is a way - what we need in Scotland just now is a will to resolve injustice ...

We have the will, so why don't the politicians share it ... Why do some at Holyrood bow to or protect those in the justice system who act simply in their own selfish interest, against that of the wider public & national interest ...
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Al



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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore. †For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. †What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good  God i made a fool of myself.
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Al



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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore. †For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. †What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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Big Mac



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Kevin    You managed to steer the debate on to the disclosures issue   in a situation which must have been pretty nerve wracking ,given that there were a few million listeners hanging on to your every word.
It was also good to hear Iain getting his point accross.
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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm Down Kevin

Remember the main aim of your call was to highlight Brendans case and the disclosure issue.
At least they phoned you back after your e-mail and allowed you to put your point across.
Awiting their call at lunch time to see if they use my questions for Mr MacAskill which i will post later if not used.
Best wishes

Big Mac

Perhaps you would be so kind to inform us what is happening with your nephews disclosure?

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*Angel*



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounded very good Kevin...Your voice reached all the way to us listeners in Sweden to!!!
Guje and I are so happy that You got the opportunity to highlight Brendanís case.
And we were so happy to hear that they wanted You to keep them updated!

Best wishes Guje and *AngeL*

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