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Iain McKie

'And getting drunk and very happy'

I have often thought over the years how alcohol impacts on justice and the effect it has on the fabric of Scottish society.

I have also wondered despite all the talk why those who are in a position to do something often don't.

This led to yesterday's letter to the Herald.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/com...o-their-responsibilities.24818200
Big Wullie

Sadly I cannot read this article Iain because I am not subscribed to the Herald.

Would it be too much bother to copy and paste it ?

I am sure there are others who also read the forum and not subscribed to the Herald who would also like to read the article in full.
Iain McKie

Make licensees live up to their responsibilities
THE HERALD - TUESDAY 22 JULY 2014
IS it too much to hope from your report of an emergency hearing by Glasgow City Council's licensing board ("Licensing board uses power to shut down notorious pub", The Herald, July 19) that local licensing boards supported by the police are at last going to address the lack of co-operation from manager and licence holder(s) of pubs and clubs which I would argue makes some of our streets no-go areas and is hardly likely to impress our visitors from the Commonwealth?

At weekends I have watched licensed premises decant drunken people onto the pavements of our towns and cities exposing them to risk and being complicit in the commission of sexual and other crimes. Apparently a hard core of managers and licensees have washed their hands of the fact that under the Licensing (Scotland) Act 2005 they have extensive powers and obligations related to drunkenness in licensed premises.

The statistics are telling. Over a four year period from 2009 to 2012, 4 people were prosecuted for related offences and over this period 5 people received fiscal fines where the main offence was the sale of alcohol to a drunken person.

My point is would it not be better instead of continuing to lock the stable door after the horse has bolted to tackle the problem at the door of the licensed premises as people enter and are served alcohol  rather than wait until the police and other emergency services have to pick the inebriated and injured off our street?

What stops licensees and the licensing authorities using the extensive powers they already have to limit drunkenness and the sale of alcohol to obviously drunk patrons?  Surely not the financial imperative?

Iain A J McKIe
Big Wullie

Unfortunately Iain I believe everything comes down to money in Scotland and in particular the Justice System.

We only need to look at the amount of people being refused legal aid to challenge convictions or commission expert evidence to help challenge those convictions.

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