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Iain McKie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:58 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Today the Justice Committee agreed to keep the 'Justice for Megrahi' petition calling for a public enquiry into the conviction of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi open. You can follow the short debate at this link starting about 2 minutes in.

http://www.scottishparliament.tv/...aspx?sort=date&vid=0_mhmf1cpt
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Scottish Parliament also have their own youtube section:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXsUR-BdMBY

Their own dedicated justice section too

https://www.youtube.com/results?s...tish+parliament+justice+committee
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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End this disgraceful appeal on behalf of Lockerbie bomber, say US bereaved

American relatives of victims of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 are calling on campaigners to bin their petition calling for another court hearing

American relatives of victims of the Lockerbie bombing have objected to a fresh appeal against the conviction of the Libyan found guilty of carrying it out.

In a letter to the Lord Advocate they say they are against the petition being lodged by Jim Swire and fellow-campaigners who believe that Abdul Baset Ali al-Megrahi was wrongly convicted.

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....disgraceful-appeal-on-behalf.html

Although the Herald article is behind their paywall the public comments aren’t and are well worth a read.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/new...aign-to-excuse-megrahi.1423180877
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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End this disgraceful appeal on behalf of Lockerbie bomber, say US bereaved

American relatives of victims of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 are calling on campaigners to bin their petition calling for another court hearing

American relatives of victims of the Lockerbie bombing have objected to a fresh appeal against the conviction of the Libyan found guilty of carrying it out.

In a letter to the Lord Advocate they say they are against the petition being lodged by Jim Swire and fellow-campaigners who believe that Abdul Baset Ali al-Megrahi was wrongly convicted.

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....disgraceful-appeal-on-behalf.html

Although the Herald article is behind their paywall the public comments aren’t and are well worth a read.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/new...aign-to-excuse-megrahi.1423180877


Just goes to show how easy it is to fool Americans.

What part of fabricated evidence don't they understand in America ?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxMfxYUP6VI
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A judge has called for a further hearing to decide if a new appeal can be heard in the Lockerbie bombing case.....The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) asked the appeal court to rule on whether it could continue investigating. It wants a ruling on whether the relatives have "a legitimate interest"......It concluded the application was being actively supported only by the members of the victims' families. A brief procedural hearing took place in Edinburgh before judge Lady Dorrian to examine the SCCRC's petition. She ordered a further hearing to take place, likely to last a day, for all the issues surrounding the commission's request to be aired.It is expected to take place later in the year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-32091116

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http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....ring-in-lockerbie-appeal-bid.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A judge has called for a further hearing to decide if a new appeal can be heard in the Lockerbie bombing case.....The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) asked the appeal court to rule on whether it could continue investigating. It wants a ruling on whether the relatives have "a legitimate interest"......It concluded the application was being actively supported only by the members of the victims' families. A brief procedural hearing took place in Edinburgh before judge Lady Dorrian to examine the SCCRC's petition. She ordered a further hearing to take place, likely to last a day, for all the issues surrounding the commission's request to be aired.It is expected to take place later in the year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-32091116

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http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....ring-in-lockerbie-appeal-bid.html


If the SCCRC were truly independent there would be no need to ask the appeal courts permission to investigate this awful case.

I really fear this is an attempt to allow SCCRC not to investigate this again and the blame will lie with the courts and not SCCRC.

Check out their independence when they are full of Judiciary.

Check out their independence when they have members sitting in appeal courts as temporary judges.

Check out their independence when they have Crown Office members seconded to work with them.

Then check how they are supposed to be formulated here:

http://www.journalonline.co.uk/Referendum/1008849.aspx#.VRbFlNGzWM8


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•To provide a body that is detached from the legal system which can take a different, less formal and broader approach, to alleged miscarriages of justice. In deserving cases, such a body can put a case back into the legal system and ask the court to look at it again. Hence the composition of the Commission, with the balance weighted toward non-legal participants;


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• To provide a body which is independent from both the courts and the political process.


Some other quotes:
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It is submitted that the broad nature of the constitution of the SCCRC is important.  In particular, given the terms of section 194A(5) and (6), which do not limit the make-up of the Commission only to legally qualified persons, it was clearly the will of Parliament that the SCCRC should not adopt a purely legalistic approach in carrying out its function and determining whether its statutory tests are met.  Parliament recognised that the input of non lawyers into the decision-making process was and is of the utmost importance, particularly when considering the “interests of justice” test.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It describes itself as a "truth seeking body" .

It has tended to take a flexible "outcome" approach as opposed to a legal "process" approach in reaching it conclusions. That is to say, it tends toward conclusions based on impressions of guilt or possible innocence as opposed to regard to the technical or legal integrity of the proceedings. For example it has referred a case on the basis of an "unease" it was unable to define in legal terms – see Harper v HMA 2005 SCCR 245.

The Supreme Court in Cadder said (see Lord Hope at para [62]:

“The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission must make up its own mind, if it is asked to do so, as to whether it would be in the public interest for those cases to be referred to the High Court. It will be for the appeal court to decide what course it ought to take if a reference were to be made to it on those grounds by the Commission.”


So why can the SCCRC not make up their own mind if it is in the interests of justice to allow Jim Swire & Co to appeal ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At its next meeting on 21st April the Scottish Parliament Justice Committee will give further consideration to 'Justice For Megrahi's' petition to have a public enquiry into Lockerbie. This is JFM's latest update.

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JUSTICE FOR MEGRAHI SUBMISSION: PETITION PE1370

Justice for Megrahi (JFM) is most appreciative and grateful that the Justice Committee (JC ) has continued to maintain PE1370 on the books having identified that there are highly significant and influential factors which have a direct bearing on our call for an inquiry into the Lockerbie/Ziest affair. Namely, the referral to the SCCRC and the High Court for a third appeal supported by mem- bers of the UK bereaved and the al-Megrahi family itself, and, the lodging of serious allegations of criminality with Police Scotland against Crown, police and forensic officials by JFM.

Regarding the referral. Following an initial procedural hearing on 23rd January this year on a peti- tion by the SCCRC for advice on whether victims' relatives have a legitimate interest to pursue such an appeal, the High Court fixed a further procedural hearing for 27th March. At this hearing it was decided to hold a further hearing, before three senior judges, to consider the substantive issues raised in the petition, and the legal competence of the petition itself . A date is still to be fixed.

JFM observes that, in part, this issue is complicated by the conflict of interest raised by The Crimi- nal Procedure (Legal Assistance, Detention and Appeals) (Scotland) Act 2010 Section 7 - Appeals.

‘In determining whether or not it is in the interests of justice that any appeal arising from the refer- ence should proceed, the High Court must have regard to the need for finality and certainty in the determination of criminal proceedings.’

With respect to the JFM allegations levelled against Crown, police and forensic officials for their conduct, the major Police Scotland investigation, ‘Operation Sandwood’, remains ongoing. We maintain full confidence in the diligence and professionality of the investigators and are being pro- vided with regular briefings on the general progress of the investigation.

While JFM is not aware of when the police report will be completed that report will be handed over to the Crown Office for an assessment of whether any action should follow.

In this regard we must once again highlight our very serious concerns at the ill-considered and irre- sponsible remarks made by the current Lord Advocate in the media regarding JFM and its allega- tions on several occasions since the accusations were made.

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....erately-false-and-misleading.html
http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....i-backers-flayed-by-new-lord.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-30560364
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/3...ector-to-discuss-lockerbie-probe/

In these remarks the Lord Advocate, and COPFS as a whole, are quite obviously and uncon- scionably overstepping the mark and destroying any pretence that they will be able to assess the po- lice report in an unbiased and objective manner. By their unprecedented and unconstitutional public interventions these authorities have effectively ruled themselves out as arbiters of the police report.

In light of the above, Professor Robert Black QC has proposed that the responsibility for assessing the police report should be handed over to an ‘independent prosecutor’.

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....of-interest-return-to-charge.html
http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....r-lord-advocate-to-step-back.html

JFM would value the Justice Committee’s thoughts on these matters and ask members to consider the principle of appointing an ‘independent prosecutor’.
Again, JFM would like to reiterate its sincere gratitude to the JC for its indulgence in this matter.

The Committee of Justice for Megrahi.
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At this morning’s meeting of the Scottish Parliament’s Justice Committee it was decided (1) to keep open Justice for Megrahi’s petition (PE1370) calling for an independent inquiry into the conviction of Abdelbaset Megrahi; and (2) to write to the Lord Advocate enquiring how the Crown Office proposes to deal with the forthcoming Police Scotland report on JFM’s allegations of criminal misconduct on the part of police officers, prosecutors and Crown forensic scientists in the Lockerbie investigation, prosecution and trial.

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co....session-of-justice-committee.html


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