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barrylanza · Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Glasgow

Lockerbie witness traded away

I bet you the independent commission will not happen , as the SNP probably traded that in any deal... as any REAL evidence will embarass about everyone

look at www.hotmail.com

account champcompconsultant

password roya123

scan of cards from intelligence agencies, emails for Victims groups and from the Libyans.

I was trraded away Twice.. Aug 31, 2000 when they made a deal that there would be no defence witness if the main witness was trashed...

then May 2001 when Bush made a deal wit the Libyans to get on the UN security council for Human Rights

THE WHYS
[pan Am used to be called Pan Iran, The US and right wing Jewish groups were trying to install the Shahs son.. My father-in-law was involved.. The Shahs family was the largest shareholder in Pan Am

Bollier, who made the timer for the bombs, wife was Iranian , accoridng to the Libyans

The Libyans want the sanctions off and we told that if they embarassed the US or UK, that would never happen.. so they negotiated on everything..

BP, Shell, Exxon and Total are now in Libya as they were in Iran

They are put the sticks to me and I expect worse

Barry Lanza

00 44 1786 831 554

wife is Hessaby, well know in Iran and my mother-in-laws family were Pakravans... SAVAK

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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

I was actually appalled at the attitude of Paul McBride to Christine Grahame in this Program.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/epis...ns/Newsnight_Scotland_20_10_2009/

He seemed to have no grasp of the fact Megrahi was pressured into dropping his appeal by Kenny MacAskill in order to be released yet all the time he had no intention of releasing him under the prisoner transfer agreement.

This appeal has been swept under the carpet and it is people like him that allow the cover ups to continue with his ridiculous attitude.

I think he should be made to apologise to Ms Grahame.

If the proper place to debate the appeal was the courts then why have the courts allowed this appeal to be abandoned in the fashion it has ?

It could have easily have continued by the video link that was already in operation to Greenock but no the appeal had to be dropped for Megrahi to be released.

The fact remains Mr McBride that even the London Government did not want Megrahi to die in a Scots Jail, let alone the Scottish Government.

If our courts were that confident, then they would have insisted on the appeal continuing.

No log for the timer and it went to America, How convenient.

Mr McBride seems to place all the blame on his defence team by claiming they had the evidence prior to trial, Proof of Defective Representation where his QC Taylor stood up and closed the case without any prior consultation.

Can we all make sure Mr McBride never comes to sit on the board of SCCRC with his attitude of "that's all we need to know"
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scotkaz · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 526

Lockerbie families welcome new inquiry

http://www.heraldscotland.com/new...lies-welcome-new-inquiry-1.928318

Relatives of people killed in the Lockerbie bombing have welcomed news that there could be a fresh investigation into the atrocity.

Families of British victims have been advised that police are following several new lines of inquiry, including a review of forensic evidence into the 1988 bombing.

A total of 270 people were killed when Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over the town of Lockerbie on December 21.

It is understood that the Crown Office in Scotland has contacted relatives via email informing them of the plans for a new investigation.

The Sunday Telegraph is reporting that Lindsey Miller, a senior Procurator Fiscal who was involved in preparing evidence for Megrahi’s trial, has written: “Throughout the investigation we have, at various times, taken stock of the evidence as a whole with a view to identifying further lines of inquiry that can be pursued.

“Now that the appeal proceedings are at an end a further review of the case is under way and several potential lines of inquiry, both through a ‘desktop’ (paper) exercise and consultation with forensic science colleagues are being considered.

“You will of course appreciate that it would not be appropriate for me to elaborate on these lines but please be assured that this is not simply paying lip service to the idea of an ‘open case’.”

Pamela Dix, who lost her brother Peter in the 1988 bombing, said tonight: “As far as we understand it there are avenues which are being pursued, and I think that should be interpreted as a good thing.

“Expectations around Megrahi’s appeal were really quite high but hopes were profoundly dashed when the appeal was abandoned.

“The situation is unresolved and it is unfinished business.”

Dr Jim Swire, who has long been a campaigner for a full inquiry into the bombing, said: “I think that if they are really going to a meaningful investigation then that is all well and good and long overdue. I would be all for it.

“But if it is just a dodge to prevent an investigation into why the lives of those killed were not protected then I would be livid.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, the only man to be convicted of the bombing, was released on compassionate grounds from Greenock Prison in August.

The release of Megrahi, who has terminal cancer, led to a storm of protest from American relatives of Lockerbie victims.

The decision to free him and allow him to return home to Libya was taken by Kenny MacAskill, Justice Secretary in the minority SNP administration in Edinburgh.

The Sunday Telegraph reported that Detective Chief Inspector Michael Dalgleish, who was part of the original team that brought the case against Megrahi, is heading the investigation.

Four detectives from Dumfries and Galloway Police are understood to be working on the case full-time.

Megrahi, 57, a former Libyan intelligence officer, has always maintained that he had nothing to do with the bombing of Flight 103 from Heathrow to New York.

After being declared one of the two chief suspects behind the bombing by the British government in 1991, Megrahi spent nearly 10 years on the FBI’s Most Wanted list.

He finally handed himself in to the United Nations in April 1999, saying he was willing to stand trial in a neutral country.

He was convicted of the mass murder in 2001 before a panel of Scottish judges at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands and told he would spend a minimum of 27 years in prison before being considered for parole.

He twice appealed against his conviction, arguing the guilty verdict had been a miscarriage of justice - finally dropping his second appeal.

He was linked to the bombing by fragments of clothing that were found wrapped around the remnants of the Lockerbie bomb.

But his decision to drop his appeal left British families, many of whom are sceptical about his guilt, fearing that new information that should have been made public would remain secret.

News of a fresh inquiry comes as relatives’ group UK Families Flight 103 delivered a letter to Prime Minister Gordon Brown asking him to instigate a full independent inquiry into the Lockerbie bombing under the auspices of the Inquiries Act 2005.

Members of the group have also requested a meeting with him.

A spokeswoman for the group said: “Since 1989 senior political figures from successive governments have agreed in principle to an inquiry but have qualified their comments by saying that it could not take place while the criminal investigation was ongoing.

“With the abandonment of Mr Megrahi’s appeal against his conviction, there has been no resolution to any aspect of responsibility for the bombing.

“During the trial and subsequently, we heard of ‘significant information’ from a foreign power. On repeated occasions, Her Majesty’s Government has sought to prevent or obstruct access to documents, some viewed by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission, for reasons of ‘national security’. We seek access to documents previously the subject of Public Interest Immunity Certificates.

“Article 2 of the European Convention on Human Rights demands that an inquiry into the circumstances of a death conform to certain minimum standards where it has occurred at the hands of a state or at the hands of agents of a state.

“As host nation, the state - i.e. the UK - had responsibility for the security of the aircraft, as confirmed in the findings of the Lockerbie Fatal Accident Inquiry and for the safety of its country’s airports, as well as for the proficient use of intelligence that might have prevented the disaster.

“We maintain that there has been no investigation compliant with the Article 2 rights of the families.

“We have waited patiently for almost 21 years to learn the full truth of what happened. Now we await Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s response to our renewed calls for a full inquiry into all the circumstances of the bombing.”

Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 262 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Beware of the Crown Office bearing gifts.

This enquiry is to be supervised by an officer who was previously involved and has apparently 4 Dumfries and Galloway detectives working on it. Is this the level of expertise we are looking for?

Nothing in their recent behaviour convinces me that the Crown Office wish other than for this whole affair to be closed down. Their control of the whole affair is relentless. I do not trust them.
What is clearly required is the full enquiry being sought by the UK relatives.

http://news.google.co.uk/news/mor...PFdUE-MtsEHXrZCpb6i4M&topic=h

Tom Shielding · Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 11

Mr Mckie. As soon as i saw the news article re a new investigation into this case i thought much the same as yourself. They are trying to fool the masses but certainly won't fool us all. Regards Tom Shielding.

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8315778.stm

How come Christine Grahame can get this kind of info with a FOI request yet some of us are denied access to our case documents
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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1149 Location: Glasgow

I agree with the following: