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Serious doubts over Kenny MacAskill's "Justice"
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Al



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Serious doubts over Kenny MacAskill's "Justice" Reply with quote

Having read the "Comments" (linked below) re our new SNP "Justice" Minister (or whatever Alex Salmond now calls that post), Kenny MacAskill MSP, i can't help but feel that this man could well turn out to be even worse than Jamieson (and that's saying something) and there will be no Independent Public Judicial Inquiry into the 10-year-long McKie affair, and its wider implications on our Scottish "justice" system and on those who have been charged with its "just, fair, honest, impartial and proper" implementation over that time (Judges, "Justice" Ministers, Lords Advocate, Solicitors General, SCRO, SCCRC, The Crown and ALL in its employ).

Is this man really going to be wholly independent, impartial, fair and just - or is his VERY close associations with the Edinburgh / Scottish legal fraternity, and the Edinburgh / Scottish establishment in general it would seem, going to result in no McKie Independent Public Judicial Inquiry, and no "Justice For ALL" who truly deserve it?

Does anyone agree with the "Comments" linked below, or have any further comments and / or information re Scotland's new "Justice" Minister, Kenny MacAskill?

It doesn't look too hopeful a future (for "Justice For ALL" ... rich or poor, no matter your socio-economic background and upbringing) in Scotland to me, especially from reading the following comments about this man ... maybe i'll be proved wrong ... let's hope so:

http://www.theherald.co.uk/busine...play.var.1363192.0.0.php#comments

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman....on.cfm?id=740262007#comment617196

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman....on.cfm?id=740262007#comment618344

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=758332007#comment628006

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=758332007#comment628035

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=758332007#comment628597



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Iain McKie



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,

Alex Salmond is committed to a judicial enquiry and this means the new Cabinet Secretary for Justice, Kenny MacAskill, is also committed.

You might have read my letter in yesterday's ‘Herald’ seeking to persuade that the enquiry be broadened to examine the overall causes of injustice in Scotland as exemplified in Shirley’s case and Lockerbie etc.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/featur...tters/display.var.1404476.0.0.php

I feel it is important that everyone who feels aggrieved about the way they have been dealt with by the Scottish justice system makes their feelings known to the new government and in letters to the media.

I am not naïve enough to believe that those with a vested interest in the continuance of the present system will not try to undermine any such enquiry. For the moment however I am certainly willing to accept Mr. Salmond’s promise as an indication that he truly intends to change the way we are governed.

Best wishes,

Iain
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Above

Since most of your links contain comments i have made myself on Mr MacAskill can i also ask you to read the Following.
http://www.mojoscotland.com/robert_brown/robert_brown1.html

You will note that he did help the case of Robert Brown and fought for Disclosure in his case.
It would not now be possible for him to deny anyone this same priviledge.
you will also see that in the biggest majority of Miscarriages there is the fact that Crown Withheld information, Mr Macaskill must now look into why Crown are still delaying trials by refusing to reveal statements. See my other comments on disclosure at the following

http://sccrcunjustdecisions.myfastforum.org/about3.html

I would also say to give MacAskill the chance Write to him even if you have any concerns.
BW2 AKA Big Wullie
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Al



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain and Big Wullie,

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Yes, Iain. I saw your article in The Herald. My hope too is (as you said in the final paragraph) that "the remit [of the PROMISED judicial inquiry into Shirley's case] be widened to provide a total examination of the problems within our justice system... ". We'll wait and see if Salmond, MacAskill and the SNP do as you suggest and deliver on that.

And, yes, Big Wullie. I noted all your "Comments" too. It would appear that MacAskill was not very helpful or supportive to your plight whatsoever - though, surprise surprise, VERY protective of the SCCRC. From what i have seen of his responses to others who have suffered terrible injustice and ill-treatment at the hands of the authorities in Scotland, this kind of standard politician's / lawyer's fob-off reply is very much his forte and par for the course.

Notwithstanding your comments about his involvement in Robert Brown's case ("he did 'help' the case of Robert Brown and 'fought' for Disclosure in his case... "), i am yet to be at all impressed by the man or, for that matter, persuaded that he would be worth contacting (or voting for - not my constituency in any event) as you suggested.

Just WHAT did he do to "HELP" you, after all? Not a lot methinks.

Time will tell if he turns out to be any better (or worse) than Jamieson.

Best wishes,

Al
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

I sincerely wish there was more people like yourself to support these dreadful Miscarriages not only in Shirleys case and mine but them all.
In Regards to Kenny MacAskill i am willing to let him get his feet in the door and his ar-e on the seat then i will be making representations to him in regards to my case (And await his response before any more protests or snide comments) after all he has now moved up the ladder and is now responsible for Justice for our Country and as such should at the very least "investigate" any claims of Injustice which would also mean he investigates complaints of Malpractice and Misconduct within the Ranks of SCCRC, He can no longer fob anyone off by saying they are outwith his constituency.
Al Thanks for taking the time to read all my comments, Even responding in this way. It's great to know that my quest is starting to reach the people of Scotland, And hopefully further.
I will continue until Justice is served.
Kind Regards

Big Wullie
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Al



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Big Wullie

Many thanks for your very kind words, Wullie - but no need my friend.

I can CLEARLY see from your postings on these threads, and elsewhere, the amount of time, frustration (justified), anger (justified), heartache and misery your case has caused and expended - as is the case for ALL who have been through injustices at the hands of the (Scottish) state / authorities. But, SHAMEFULLY, the powers that be (our ruling politicos, judges, solicitors, advocates, QCs, Crown prosecutors / officials, Law Society of Scotland, SCCRC, police et al) don't really give a monkey's about the continual pain, misery and heartache that these miscarriages cause to the individual person or their loved ones, who often have to watch helplessly as the lives of the wronged one crumbles throughout the never-ending process of trying to fight (and fight, and fight... ) for "JUSTICE" - and, usually, RICHLY DESERVED COMPENSATION ... as in Shirley's case.

Iain (who, as you know, is no fool) gave you some salient advice the other day in the "Injustices in Scotland" topic section, and i wholeheartedly agree with his very wise counsel in that regard - LESS IS MORE; the "who, what, when, where, why" in your case; your primary objectives / goals in your case; and, try to keep your points / message as SUCCINCT as you possibly can - in this age of information overload / bombardments (especially on the net), people simply don't have the time (or attention spans!) to read masses and masses of "case history" material that you may wish to present, which is often also extremely complex. So try to take Iain's advice on board - and mine too ... for what it's worth ... given with good intent and for your "best interests".

As you rightly advised "freethekillie2" - in your most recent post in the "Injustices in Scotland" topic section: "Read the advice Iain has on this forum ["Fighting injustice" topic] about taking on these type of people."

Please try to take on board Iain's very sensible (and very painfully learned) advice as your never-ending battle for the TRUTH, VINDICATION and JUSTICE continues.

I look forward to reading how your case progresses on this much-needed Forum.

Take care.

With all best wishes,

Al


"Injustices in Scotland":
http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/sutra116.php#116

"Fighting injustice":
http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/about18.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For more on the way forward re a judicial enquiry see the Sunday Herald comments:

http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/..._real_chance_for_new_politics.php
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still having SERIOUS doubts over our new Cabinet Secretary "for JUSTICE"...


'Jail should be kept for long-term, serious criminals'

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=889572007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NB. This posting has been removed as it is the moderator's view that it does not relate to this subject and a similar posting has already been made under 'Are SCCRC independent enough.....'

SCCRC Liars and Cover-Up Merchants
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenny MacAskill MSP, Scotland’s Cabinet Secretary FOR JUSTICE … an assessment of your great achievements nearly 6 MONTHS ON……

A few very blunt messages for you from those out with Scotland first of all:

http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...cess-to.html#c4489510155615591871

And also here:

If "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere", then are we to now conclude that these two men [MacAskill and Salmond] are indeed a threat to justice everywhere? ... and should therefore be unceremoniously kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity by the people of Scotland.

As for my views on Scotland’s Cabinet Secretary FOR JUSTICE? Well, I think you all know by now what I think of MacAskill (and the man who appointed him):

e.g. http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/sutra475.php#475

“Cabinet Secretary FOR JUSTICE”? That’s got to be one of the biggest misnomers I’ve heard in my life.

The man is as bad, if not worse, than Cathy (“No Justice”) Jamieson was … especially given that he has to keep his lawyer buddies at The Star Chamber in Drumsheugh Gardens, EH3, sweet all the time.

There will be no justice in Scotland under this charlatan or his boss … but I’m quite prepared to be proved wrong.

Best wishes Kenny and Alex … you have both done, and continue to do, Scotland very proud.

Al

PS. You know where to reach me any time guys … but I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to contact me.

Scotland now seen as a banana republic

http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/sutra790.php#790

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