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The Impact of Lockerbie
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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain

Very interesting article,

--There is no evidence that the convicted Libyan, Abdel Basset Ali Al-Megrahi, put a suitcase on the connecting flight from Malta to Frankfurt, where it was supposedly transferred to Pan Am 103. Air Malta is notable for its close checking of baggage, and when UK’s Granada Television claimed that the death bag had gone through it to Pan Am 103, Air Malta sued. Its evidence that only 55 bags with ascribed passengers—none of whom went on to London--were on that flight was so compelling that Granada settled out-of-court, paying damages and costs. This of course never made it into the New York Times, and had little effect on the Zeist court, which eventually said that how the unaccompanied bag was put on the plane “is a major difficulty for the Crown case,” but it didn’t interfere with the finding of guilt.


--In its low-keyed news article on the Scottish Review Commission’s repudiation of the Zeist court’s decision ( “Lockerbie Ruling Raises Questions on Libyan’s Guilt,” June 29, 2007), Times reporter Alan Cowell does a creditable job of protecting his paper for failing to question another “lie that wasn’t shot down.” The Review Commission apparently leaned over backwards to avoid charging the Zeist court with judicial malpractice, so Cowell latches on to the fact that the Review stresses “new evidence that we have found and new evidence that was not before the trial court,” as well as their denial that there was proof of fabricated evidence. But much of that new evidence was deliberately excluded by the trial court, and some of it was hidden by the prosecution and its U.S. and UK political and intelligence sponsors. And while there is perhaps no hard proof of fabricated evidence, there is solid documentation of its questionable handling and possible fabrication, which should have precluded its acceptance by the trial court.


Instead of citing Hans Kochler or Robert Black, Cowell quotes Dan Cohen, whose daughter went down with Pan Am 103, who expresses regret that al-Megrahi might go home a hero. Possibly more honorable would have been a Times apology and expression of sympathy for the Libyan victim, who will have spent 6 or 7 years in prison on the basis of manipulated and laughable evidence in another show trial, but which the Times repeatedly claimed was justice in action.

Certainly shows our Justice system for the Fraud that it is.
A worthy note is that SCCRC will not find fault with our Courts nor the alleged experts who gave evidence in this case.
Remind me not to Buy the Times


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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It Looks like mr al magrahi will have his day in court next month for one of many appeal hearing's
http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/webR...amp;IncludeString=&Button1=Go
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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More Lockerbie debates

It would seem that SCCR are colluding with Crown office to continue to hide documents from The Defence Team of Megrahi.
There is a report Crown still refuse to reveal. Is this because they had it at the time of trial but refused to release it.
Instead of enhancing Public Confidence in our Judicial System SCCRC are Further Damaging an already Crumbling System Beyond Repair.
Read the following articles and decide yourself.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1727525.0.0.php

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1727540.0.0.php

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1571662007#new

Are SCCRC colluding with Crown to further withhold this evidence?
I Think So
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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ntsb.org/Wiringcargodoorlite/home.html


found the above link in the herald, interesting!
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Iain McKie



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks gentlemen for keeping the Lockerbie links going.

As we see this whole prosecution unravelling before our eyes how many believe that the emerging evidence will ever be heard in court or at an enquiry?

Mr. Megrahi is going home and the powers that be will move heaven and earth to ensure the truth is never known.

Is there anything we can do about it?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Truth Be told Iain, the lockerbie case will blow the scottish justice system to bits!
the scottish goverments past and present, can not afford the crown to be CAUGHT on their cover up in their court system.



as for the police wanting and warning that the enquiry into shirleys case , could harm confidence in the police force so be it!
we all need the truth!


HAS THERE BEEN A DEAL DONE ?
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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Story in Scotland on sunday, with Dr Swire.


http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1600882007


WHAT A NOBLE THING TO DO!
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Iain McKie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noble indeed.

Do we tend to forget too quickly how many lives changed on a December day nearly 20 years ago?

The following link brought many emotions flooding back to me.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d5_1191508798
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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So True Iain.

IN the case of lockerbie , and shirley's there are to many doubts!
Scottish justice has to be seen to be done
not with fabricated evidence or false witnesses.

our best small justice system in the world is not made out to be just that.
if they let mr al- magrahi go home in a deal they are protecting their own back's.


as in shirley's case the police are trying to do!

found this from your above link!http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cc_1190503557
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1753168.0.0.php

a story about mr al-magrahi.


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