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PeterCherbi

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 167
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Allan
Thanks for that link, and good luck with the fight to have a proper inquiry into what happened.
Sadly I see the Justice Secretary again is set on sitting on the sidelines. I really do think we need a more capable person in the position who will actually take and show some initiative in settling injustice.
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allan mcleod
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Big Wullie
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Allan
Great to see the police have been forced into re-interviewing a witness in Kevin's tragic death.
Have you any more detail than what is printed regarding the re-interview and fresh evidence ?
Best Wishes
Wullie |
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W.Roughead
Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 120
Location: Scotland.
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Allan, I sincerely hope that this will lead to the re-investigation of Kevin's death. If, this witness was able now to provide some kind of information not available at the time, albeit these years on, I hope it brings a result. _________________ “Send not to know for whom the bell tolls – it tolls for thee.” John Donne. |
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Angeline
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 148
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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I sincerely hope this new information forces Northern to re-investigate (or rather, investigate properly this time).
Very best wishes.
Angeline _________________ As long as one heart still holds on, then hope will never really be gone |
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allan mcleod
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Below is 2 recent press articles 1 link 1 printed.
Note - recent correspondence from Northern Constabularys FOI officer regarding Kevins clothing reads " The hospital mortuary wouild arrange for it to be incinerated and that this was the case in respect of your sons clothing". Also Patholigist recently wrote, " I do not recall any references to an assault having taken place". It was known by police and we Kevins family on the weekend of Kevins death that Kevin had been assaulted (punched) in the nightclub. Why did police not inform the patholigists of this pertenent information.? Regarding the (fabricated) lobster creel theory 5 years later it must be noted that both patholigists at the FAI agreed that Kevins injuries was inflicted several "hours" prior to death, not "seconds" prior as suggested in this undoubtedly fabricated theory. Lie after Lie After Lie. However, the fight for truth and justice continues.
http://www.johnogroat-journal.co....s__dismay_at_interview_delay.html
Crown Office asked tp probe grievances over sudden death
ALLEGED shortcomings in the police investigation of a sudden death in Wick are so serious that the officers involved may have broken the law, a family has claimed.
They are asking Scotland’s senior law officer Eilish Angiolini to authorise a probe into their fresh set of grievances.
The move is the latest in the marathon campaign by the family of Kevin McLeod to prove his death in the town’s harbour in February 1997 was the result of foul play.
In their plea to the Lord Advocate, Kevin’s parents Hugh and June McLeod cite four new complaints to support their belief that officers should be brought to book. Serious flaws about how the initial investigation into Kevin’s death were carried out were highlighted at a fatal accident investigation while several independent inquiries rapped Northern Constabulary for how it handled complaints made by the family.
Chief Constable Ian Latimer last year apologised to the family but he has consistently defended the integrity of his officers and maintained that no evidence of criminality has emerged over Kevin’s death.
On the 12th anniversary of the tragedy, the McLeods want a new inquiry into unresolved concerns they have over police actions in 2002.
They are unhappy over conflicting versions over what became of Kevin’s clothing.
The couple were told last summer by the force’s freedom of information officer Pam Sherriff that hospital mortuary staff would have arranged for the clothing to be incinerated.
However, when interviewed during an independent inquiry in 2002, police officers were unable to say what had happened to the clothing.
Central Scotland Police Chief Constable Andrew Cameron then described as inexplicable the failure of the force to seize and retain the clothing for examination during what was being treated as a murder investigation.
Hugh McLeod said: “Ms Sherriff could only have obtained this information from case files regarding Kevin’s death or from a senior officer.
“It must be independently investigated as to why police officers apparently misled Mr Cameron’s enquiry team.” The family also accuse police of failing to take basic steps to check out their theory that Kevin had fallen against lobster creels stored on a boat on his way into the water.
The explanation gained credence among detectives in 2002 to help explain severe internal injuries Kevin was found to have sustained.
A private investigator hired by the family discovered that the owner of the Aurora had not been interviewed. The owner has since made clear there were no creels on his boat which would have been berthed at high water at the time of the tragedy.
In recent correspondence with the family, the force said it had been instructed by the fiscal that there had been no requirement to speak to the owner.
The family is also aggrieved that police have failed to follow up their belief that a person they suspect to have been involved in Kevin’s death was on home leave from prison on the weekend of the tragedy.
The McLeods have been told that the individual was seen in an altercation with Kevin hours before he died.
In addition, the family want to know why the pathologist who carried out the postmortem was apparently not told by police that Kevin had been the victim of an assault.
In his letter to Ms Angiolini, Mr McLeod says the family believes that the actions of officers should be investigated to establish whether they perverted the course of justice.
He adds: “The word 'shambles’ does not do justice to the handling of this whole affair.”
The McLeods want their grievances to be investigated by the Crown or a senior officer from another police force.
The Crown Office has acknowledged their request which it says is “receiving attention”.
A force spokesperson said yesterday: “Northern Constabulary has investigated all known evidence thoroughly and extensively.
“The case has also been subject to a fatal accident inquiry and internal and external reviews over a number of years since 1997.
“Northern Constabulary remains willing to examine any new evidence, should this come to light. |
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Fiscal
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 111
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Another stain on Scottish justice... |
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| ... And Justice For All wrote: | | (and can the police ever impartially investigate themselves? ... we all know the answer to that) |
I think that's a bit unfair! Where a force is investigated by another force they do it logically! It's in their own interests to do it so that they can be better equipped and experienced if they have to deal with the same scenario again.
This arrogant view held that all police and prosecutorial authorities are corrupt is just ridiculous. MISTAKES happen but CORRUPTION - no! _________________ Mr Fiscal |
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Big Wullie
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Fiscal
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:02 am Post subject: |
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This is like a broken record.
For those of you who are NEVER satisfied - as the big bad world is out to GET YOU! Take your problems and your compalints to the Public Services Ombudsman if your not happy with the organisation itself. _________________ Mr Fiscal |
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... And Justice For All

Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 58
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:09 am Post subject: "Mr Fiscal" ... Are you having a laugh?! |
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"Mr Fiscal"
Are you having a laugh?!
The reason you are so biased and blind to the corruption that goes on within the Scottish police and the Scottish Crown Office is because you have been brought up within that world and culture of "we can do no wrong" ... with your Daddy being an ex high ranking copper and you being a former Fiscal Depute. Of course you are going to defend these organisations and say they can do no wrong and are not corrupt ... you really are having a laugh!
Yes, everyone makes mistakes in life (I have and do all the time), but it is when these mistakes are not admitted to and rectified straight away (with a "hands up folks I / we made an honest mistake and we are very sorry") that often leads to the corruption, criminal collusion, conspiracy, cover up and miscarriages of justice that many who post here are alleging about their individual cases of injustice and the injustices they try to help with and expose.
As for going to the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman, Professor Alice Brown - who is moving on to pastures new (thank God!) at the end of this month, having been in the post since Jack McConnell and his Scottish Labour Party administration appointed that establishment and politico-loving "Ombudsman" in October 2002? You really are joking! She is a Scottish local authority (and all Scottish authorities) champion and protector, NOT a champion and protector of those who approach her with their cases of wrong-doing, corruption and injustice by the Scottish authorities - contact me any time if you so wish and I'll show you the proof.
Perhaps the reason some people who post here appear to be "NEVER satisfied" (but don't necessarily think that "the big bad world is out to GET THEM!") is simply because they have NEVER obtained the TRUTH and JUSTICE from the various individuals, organisations and authorities who have been involved in their individual cases of injustice ... many dating back several years or even decades now.
I think all those cases of injustice and miscarriages of justice ... (many at the murky hands of corrupt individuals within the very organisations you have been associated with throughout your life and you are always going to defend to the hilt - the man doth protest too much, methinks) ... that we all know about have a right to be "NEVER satisfied" - because they have not yet obtained the TRUTH and JUSTICE ... and, sadly, may never do so.
Your many friends and colleagues in the Scottish police and Scottish Crown Office might be able to help though - by admitting their mistakes straight away from now on and not turning those often "honest mistakes" into corruption, criminal collusion, conspiracy, cover up and appalling miscarriages of justice ... which ultimately destroys people's lives ... including all those who you often criticise and lambast on this forum.
Have a nice day!
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... And Justice For All in 2009 - those who are still doggedly pursuing justice for themselves, their loved ones and others.
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