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Al
Joined: 12 May 2007
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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
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Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
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When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
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... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
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Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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Iain McKie
Joined: 08 May 2007
Posts: 263
Location: Ayr, Scotland.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Originally posted at;
http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...ce-campaign-ends-in-death-of.html
| Quote: | ‘The Procurator Fiscal must hold a FAI when a death was caused during employment, or while in legal custody, i.e. while being held at a police station or prison.
In other circumstances, the Procurator Fiscal can hold a FAI where there are issues of public safety or matters of general public concern arising from a death and there is a need to highlight hazardous or dangerous circumstances or systems that have caused or contributed to it.
At the end of a FAI, a Sheriff makes a determination. The determination will set out:
where and when the death occurred;
· the cause of death;
· any precautions by which the death might have been avoided; and
· any defects in systems that caused or contributed to the death.’
http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/Abo...vestigation-deaths/fatal-accident |
It occurs to me that Mr. Gair’s tragic death falls exactly into these categories. His death certainly is a matter of public concern, his death might well have been avoided and the system that stalled and stumbled for 18 long years certainly contributed to his death. |
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Al
Joined: 12 May 2007
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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
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Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
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... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
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Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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PeterCherbi
Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Edinburgh
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Iain & Al
I agree too - there should be an FAI into Mr Gair's death. His suffering at the hands of a terrible injustice should not go unanswered or unaccounted for, and it is definitely in the public interest for an FAI to take place in this case.
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My blog on issues of injustice in Scotland A Diary of Injustice in Scotland by Peter Cherbi
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kevin donald
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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It Seems The System has let everyone on this forum down big time!
but if we all join forces we can do something about it.
the case of the killie 2 and most other cases are nothing at this moment ,a innocent man lost his life by the pressure put on him by the scottish justice system and others!
when will they learn?
there is a need for someone to take care of innocent men and women
and it is not happening.
they drag the issue of money till they wear you down.
it should not be about money but having the goverment issue a sorry we made a big mistake. and promise it will not happen again!
for a fact i know when brendan gets out half of whatever he gets and i quote blood money, will go to a glasgow based charity, and the other to a reward to find the killers of mrs irvine.
i do not think money was the issue with stuart as well but the need to have someone to turn to, when times got tough.
R I P STUART!
SHAME ON A SYSTEM THAT LET YOU DOWN. |
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allan mcleod
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Kevin, Spot on, How right you and otherslare.
The Scottish Justice System inc Police PFs and Senior crown office officals put victims of injustice and their families under tremendous strain and pressure in the hope that we will go away and leave them alone, by erecting obstacles, and delaying tactics in our paths to try and drain the familys Mentally, Physically,Emotionally,but moreso Financially.
But I for one on this forum will never give up the fight for justice on behalf of my Nephew Kevin Mcleod until those responsible for his horrific murder are brought to justice and those incompetent police officers and crown office officials who have covered up this gross negligence are named and shamed.
Lets all fight these injustices together. All for one and one for all. |
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PeterCherbi
Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Edinburgh
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Al
Joined: 12 May 2007
Posts: 196
Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... |
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| Quote: | Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":
"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "
Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005
__________
Yet still nothing was done. To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one properly intervened.
__________
When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.
__________
... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say. An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about. So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]
To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing
Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all). |
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Do not be afraid of them therefore. For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear. What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.
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Iain McKie
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Location: Ayr, Scotland.
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John McManus of MOJO is co-ordinating contact with Stuart’s next of kin and overseeing arrangements for his post-mortem and funeral.
It is likely to be in Glasgow and details will be posted as soon as possible.
The untimely deaths of Sally Clark and Stuart Gair stand testimony to a deeply flawed justice system no longer worthy of the name. After Stuart is laid to rest there are many difficult questions to be asked of those who should be held to account. |
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freethekillie2
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Injustice!
only the people that have injustice come to their door know the meaning,
who is willing to listen?
we the scottish people are being let down!
look at this and many more forums its all the same faces, we are not as the americans say touching base!
there has to be more fight to push it further .
after all injustice is all our problem!
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