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Al · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject:

Agree with all the regulars above, and Peter as always hits the nail right on the head … and that head is a certain Mr MacAskill’s!

The question now is, how the hell do we get shot of Scotland’s Cabinet Secretary FOR INJUSTICE, when it is patently clear - from his appointment by Salmond in the first place, and Salmond’s obvious support for his INJUSTICE Secretary’s corrupt practices - that our “Vote for Salmond / INJUSTICE”, man of the people and integrity, First Minister is going to do absolutely nowt about this crook’s incestuous exploits with his bed partners at The Star Chamber at Drumsheugh Gardens?

Time to start digging into MacAskill’s past all interested, bold and brave journos (are there any out there in Scotland now I wonder?!), especially when he was still practising as a solicitor and then his despicable actions / inactions as a newly elected MSP – try August 1999 in particular guys. There might just be enough there to expose this man for the charlatan he really is, and prove the lengths he will stoop to to protect his sacred cow friends in the Edinburgh and Scottish establishment who abuse and neglect others to cover their wrong-doings and criminal behaviour.

Right or wrong Kenny boy?! Doesn’t all this ring any bells?! “Ding dong!” … got it in one! A certain big fat file that you and your boss are still unlawfully withholding from a certain family at SNP HQ, well hidden from public gaze. Hardly the actions of “great and good men” who stand for decency, honesty, fairness, probity, integrity, public (sector) accountability and JUSTICE, now is it?!

As usual, you know the contact details for the family concerned guys – who are STILL (10 months on Mr Salmond) waiting for that call, the Special Delivery package and the unreserved apology …

Not a “disaffected obsessive” … just an ordinary guy pursuing the truth and justice … who will support any justice group or party when / if it is formed … before I would ever support Mr Salmond and his ilk again.

http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/sutra335.php#335

http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...-lawyers.html#c248760805002471684

freethekillie2 · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309

quote!

Not a “disaffected obsessive” … just an ordinary guy pursuing the truth and justice … who will support any justice group or party when / if it is formed … before I would ever support Mr Salmond and his ilk again

So true AL!

we all want truth and justice that is all we deserve.

i want to mention names in the killie 2 case but have to wait ITS NOT OBSESSIVE BUT WANTING TO KNOW i will get them when the time is right and justice will be done. to all on this forum and all fighting injustice!

I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU ALL.

i have a list of names when i am allowed to say them i will have you all running !

THANK YOU THE GOOD PEOPLE OF GALSTON AND KILMARNOCK .
THE TRUTH WILL OUT.

as i say to the 8 names your teas out soon!

Al · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that FtK2.

As in your case, i have been unable to name names to protect the family concerned, owing to the very sensitive and distressing nature of the case concerned - and Messrs Salmond and MacAskill know that only too well.

They also know fine what needs to be done to try to resolve this appalling case and build bridges with the family involved - which, over these past 10 months, they have had ample opportunity to do ... before they were elected into the all-powerful, but wholly unaccountable it seems, positions they now hold.

All the very best to you and all the regulars (who write with a passion, from vast personal experience and from the heart) who are all ultimately pursuing the very same thing...

JUSTICE for themselves, their loved ones and ALL.

Al

freethekillie2 · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309

Thanks Al,

is our courts in crisis?

yes i say, go on strike then it will stop some miscarraiges of justice happening.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.1847251.0.0.php

Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 25

A “Justice Forum” being created is the way forward, and, as is being suggested we have a golden oppertunity to launch it next August.
We can have a power base with a real voice. It must be a transparent, properly constituted body, with built in safeguards that no matter what we are confronted with, (as we will be) our dignity must remain intact.
I dont know if there is a model out there we can base a constitution on or give us some direction. If anyone knows of one, please let us know. Whatever, if we are to achieve this we have a lot of work to do.
Regards
Bryan.

Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Bryan,

Developing the idea further I would envisage this group as providing a one-stop advice and assistance service for injustice victims.

Here they would be helped to:

· Present their case coherently.
· Organise media publicity
· Obtain political support
· Complete forms and documents
· Prepare Freedom of Information requests etc etc.

The organisation would develop a database of helpful information related to fighting injustice.

In addition the group would act as a voice for victims of injustice and be available to give evidence to enquiries etc.

Hopefully it would become the complete support service to allow individuals to fight their case.

Initially the group would require funding to launch it and its continuation would depend on sponsorship or central funding.

As you have said many thousands of people are aware/affected by injustice. At ₤5 a head the first year’s funding is secured.

This is now an idea to develop.

Best wishes,

Iain

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 550 Location: Glasgow

Iain

Would it be an idea if we could start by maybe arranging a fundraising night which could give us an idea of the amount of interest.
Should we maybe start doing some fundraising of our own or maybe even asking some companies for sponsorship.
If we all as Bryan suggests approach everyone affected by injustice and say ask for them to donate a Fiver £5 which is not a lot of money, The price of a pack of fags or a gallon of petrol, then this organisation becomes a strong reality.
Let us all put our heads together and get this issue going (The sooner the better)
Suggestions for such a name would be a start then take it from there once this is agreed.
I am in support of this and offer my time completely and will dedicate myself to the setting up of such group.

Wullie Beck

freethekillie2 · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309

I Would pay as long as mojoscotland was involved!

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1856930.0.0.php

in any action agaainst injustice!

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 550 Location: Glasgow

Any Organisation willing to participate or contribute to this Organisation and all other ideas should be thought through.
I dont see any rush so far from any Organisation, Dont hold your breath people.
I would propose an organisation maybe Chaired by Iain McKie backed by the likes of maybe Prof Black and John Scott.
It is an absolute must that there be independent Legal Advice and someone capable of providing such, who the Government and Courts will accept as "Credible"
Well any organisations willing to take part?

freethekillie2 · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 309

ANY GROUP SHOULD INVOLVE ALL THE MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE GROUPS.
AND LEGAL PEOPLE, AND ALL THE MEDIA CONTACTS WE HAVE.

http://www.mojoscotland.com/news.html

http://www.innocent.org.uk/

http://www.unitedagainstinjustice.org.uk/

http://www.mojonational.com/index.html

And legal experts, and maybe even students from law courses!

and all the collective media that we have.

there has to be a chain of command.
and a united trust in the work we all do!

our only hope is to unite all injustice groups , get a web site set up and highlight all the cases in a better way.

i am will to chip in the five pounds a month as many i know are and even extra for maintaining a web site with links to all miscarraige of justice victims.

as robert burns said a man,s a man for a' that!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjr5boTgis4&feature=related