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Al



Joined: 12 May 2007
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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

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Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


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Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

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... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).




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Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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freethekillie2



Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote!

Not a “disaffected obsessive” … just an ordinary guy pursuing the truth and justice … who will support any justice group or party when / if it is formed … before I would ever support Mr Salmond and his ilk again


So true AL!


we all want truth and justice that is all we deserve.

i want to mention names in the killie 2 case but have to wait ITS NOT OBSESSIVE BUT WANTING TO KNOW i will get them when the time is right and justice will be done. to all on this forum and all fighting injustice!

I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU ALL.



i have a list of names when i am allowed to say them i will have you all running !

THANK YOU THE GOOD PEOPLE OF GALSTON AND KILMARNOCK .
THE TRUTH WILL OUT.


as i say to the 8 names your teas out soon!
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Al



Joined: 12 May 2007
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Location: IN ... justice Scotland (& tlomb)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Yet still nothing was done ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Some quotes from this "murderous and heinous" covered up case ... at the murky hands of Messrs Salmond, MacAskill, Ms Sturgeon and their SNP "Government":

"The best years of his life have been completely wasted, ruined and destroyed and can never be given back to him... NOTHING will ever compensate for what's happened to him now...

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only journalist who failed ****, although I would like to be able to say that someone in my profession had helped him... "

Freelance "Investigative" Journalist
March 2005


__________

Yet still nothing was done.  To the detached observer it seems at best incredible, and at worst heinously negligent, that no-one  properly intervened.

__________

When you are fully informed of any wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, and you choose not to properly act and intervene to put an immediate stop to that wrongdoing, criminality and injustice, then you too are undoubtedly complicit, culpable and guilty for your actions or inactions.

__________

... even one injustice in Scotland is one too many [Yes ... this case IS one injustice too many Iain, as you rightly say.  An appalling travesty of justice then, that NOBODY did a thing about.  So much for all those so-called champions and crusaders against injustice!]

To sin by SILENCE when they should protest makes cowards of men

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil [and INJUSTICE] is for good men to do nothing


Indeed ... no names, but there are many out there, those so-called "champions against injustice" and "brave, bold, respected, honest and investigative" journalists, who should search their consciences over this appalling case of abuse, neglect and INJUSTICE ... and hang their heads in SHAME (... on you all).

_________________
Do not be afraid of them therefore.  For everything that is now covered will be uncovered, and everything now hidden will be made clear.  What I say to you in the dark, tell in the daylight; what you hear in whispers, proclaim from the housetops.


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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Al,

is our courts in crisis?

yes i say, go on strike then it will stop some miscarraiges of justice happening.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.1847251.0.0.php
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Bryan



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A “Justice Forum” being created is the way forward, and, as is being suggested we have a golden oppertunity to launch it next August.
We can have a power base with a real voice. It must be a transparent, properly constituted body, with built in safeguards that no matter what we are confronted with, (as we will be) our dignity must remain intact.
I dont know if there is a model out there we can base a constitution on or give us some direction. If anyone knows of one, please let us know. Whatever, if we are to achieve this we have a lot of work to do.
Regards
Bryan.
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Iain McKie



Joined: 08 May 2007
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Location: Ayr, Scotland.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryan,

Developing the idea further I would envisage this group as providing a one-stop advice and assistance service for injustice victims.

Here they would be helped to:

· Present their case coherently.
· Organise media publicity
· Obtain political support
· Complete forms and documents
· Prepare Freedom of Information requests etc etc.

The organisation would develop a database of helpful information related to fighting injustice.

In addition the group would act as a voice for victims of injustice and be available to give evidence to enquiries etc.

Hopefully it would become the complete support service to allow individuals to fight their case.

Initially the group would require funding to launch it and its continuation would depend on sponsorship or central funding.

As you have said many thousands of people are aware/affected by injustice. At ₤5 a head the first year’s funding is secured.

This is now an idea to develop.

Best wishes,

Iain
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Big Wullie



Joined: 25 Apr 2007
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Location: Glasgow

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain

Would it be an idea if we could start by maybe arranging a fundraising night which could give us an idea of the amount of interest.
Should we maybe start doing some fundraising of our own or maybe even asking some companies for sponsorship.
If we all as Bryan suggests approach everyone affected by injustice and say ask for them to donate a Fiver £5 which is not a lot of money, The price of a pack of fags or a gallon of petrol, then this organisation becomes a strong reality.
Let us all put our heads together and get this issue going (The sooner the better)
Suggestions for such a name would be a start then take it from there once this is agreed.
I am in support of this and offer my time completely and will dedicate myself to the setting up of such group.

Wullie Beck
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freethekillie2



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Would pay as long as mojoscotland was involved!



http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1856930.0.0.php




in any action agaainst injustice!
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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Organisation willing to participate or contribute to this Organisation and all other ideas should be thought through.
I dont see any rush so far from any Organisation, Dont hold your breath people.
I would propose an organisation maybe Chaired by Iain McKie backed by the likes of maybe Prof Black and John Scott.
It is an absolute must that there be independent Legal Advice and someone capable of providing such, who the Government and Courts will accept as "Credible"
Well any organisations willing to take part?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANY GROUP SHOULD INVOLVE ALL THE MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE GROUPS.
AND LEGAL PEOPLE, AND ALL THE MEDIA CONTACTS WE HAVE.




http://www.mojoscotland.com/news.html

http://www.innocent.org.uk/

http://www.unitedagainstinjustice.org.uk/




http://www.mojonational.com/index.html














And legal experts, and maybe even students from law courses!


and all the collective media that we have.

there has to be a chain of command.
and a united trust in the work we all do!

our only hope is to unite all injustice groups , get a web site set up and highlight all the cases in a better way.

i am will to chip in the five pounds a month as many i know are and even extra for maintaining a web site with links to all miscarraige of justice victims.


as robert burns said a man,s a man for a' that!




http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjr5boTgis4&feature=related


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