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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Glasgow

I was arrested last Tuesday 15th April 2008 by two CID from Guess Where ?
Yes the very station i have said for 26 years Set Me Up, Livingston

I still have no idea and am none the wiser as to why i was arrested.

I have took a guess that one of their colleagues names appeared on a blog named William Beck Blogspot along with his old Address and Present Address in my fight with Crown Office to release documents to me i claim are pertinent to my appeal.

My MSP was told by Crown that to release the documents would reveal Living People (Do we need to wait until they are dead) and this allows them to retain the documents, Have you ever heard so much Bull in all your life.

Anyway they proceeded to take me to London Rd Police Station and book me through the bar.
Once through the bar they took me to an interview room and tried to ask me some questions that went like this:
Do you have a Computer ? No answer at-all
Do you put addresses on the computer ? No answer at-all
Can you understand how people would be upset if
their names appeared on the net without them
being previously warned ? No answer at-all

They got absolutely Hee Haw out of my mouth once i entered the interview room, not even to confirm if the audio tapes were sealed and they then took me back to my House.

My wife is recovering from Brain Surgery and still has three aneurysms and is not to be stressed out.
You can immagine how much she was freaking with the same division that set me up in 1981-1982 coming from Livingston to Glasgow to arrest me.
To this end i have asked my MSP to seek confirmation as to exactly why they came to my house.

I would have been more than happy to speak to them in my house but they wouldn't have this and detained me under section 14 and they assured me they were not arresting me, just detaining me (Same Difference) What if i hadn't went ?

I would also put this other question to them :
Were they not a tad out of their jurisdiction and should they not have had Glasgow Police with them when they entered my house.

Do i have the right to refuse entry to police who were dressed in suits not uniforms who are from another area ?

I am also informed as a Blogger i have the right to report any unjust actions which would include reporting my own case without fear of arrest and that we are protected as bloggers by the same rules that protect our press when reporting incidents.

For the avoidance of any doubt the documents on my blogs were never given to me by SCCRC with any restrictions attached, Nor were the documents given to me by my Solicitor in June 1982.

None of the documents were given to me in confidence either, so i have been told i can publish them.

I have also sought legal advice that said i have the right to freedom of speech, Just Look at the Diggar i was told.

I hope this clears up matters for Livingston Police somewhat and any further enquiries can be done at my house or Lawyers office in future which i have no objection to.

As for names and addresses appearing on the blog.

Every person registered in this Country have their names and addresses put into the library on the voters roll which is public knowledge and can therefore be printed as well as where these people work and play.

If your data appears on the net, then it is open to use by anyone everyone.

Do not put onto the net what you want kept secret

After my arrest the place the policeman goes fishing has appeared on the same blog.

I will not be intimidated by the very same police that set me up in 1982 and will publish all their current addresses if pushed any further

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Edinburgh

Hi Wullie

Quite a disturbing development in your case and one which is worthy of significant media attention given you are exposing an injustice on not only your own case but issues relating to the function of critical parts of the Criminal legal system.

I think your MSP should be asking questions of the Justice Secretary in Parliament on what happened and also he should be seeking answers from the Crown Office as to why this 'arrest' took place.

I am at pains to see how printing names & addresses on the internet is a crime. Generally, names & addresses are fairly widespread on the internet these days.

The Scottish Parliament for one, liberally print names & addresses of petitioners, respondents, and many more individuals & organisations without any problem at all - many of whom have not been informed their names or locations are there, and as far as the "digger" is concerned, I think you should take a look at the latest issue of the "digger", shown to me by a journalist yesterday which may well go much further on its front cover than what your blog may have done.

Still if something does happen relating to the arrest, and you end up in court, you do get to discuss your case, the reasons why you put up such material, and your Counsel will be able to cross examine the complainant or witnesses you ask to be cited. Ensure therefore your lawyers are fully aware of developments.

I honestly can't see all thist being in the best interests of the likes of the SCCRC or those you have complained against, given the kind of documents they have released to you in the past identifying individuals & their locations, which they would have to account for themselves but the matter will have to be dealt with now it has occurred and it will be interesting to see how the Crown proceeds, and accounts for what has already transpired.
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Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Glasgow

Peter

As always i appreciate your support.

I have just recently been told by SCCRC that it is a criminal offence for them to release documents obtained in the course of their investigations.

This was in reply to my FOI request asking what is the largest amount of complaints they have ever received against any one Lawyer or QC.
They refused this despite them having released the minutes of my trial which of all things contains "Jurors Names and Addresses" which was published on my blog (Which have now been taken down) last year, 17 th April 2007 to be precise.

Aint it funny how the police never came to my door then, but do when it concerns the details of one of their colleagues.

For the avoidance of doubt and without prejudice i have no axe to grind with the jury in my case and do not wish any of them any harm and to this end their names have now been taken down.

The reason for the publication was merely to highlight Crowns Reluctance to reveal other documents i am asking for in my case to which i am entitled to see.

Disclosure is a huge issue concerning nearly every miscarriage that has come to light recently where it has been pointed out Crown had exculpatory evidence at the time of all the original trials, The most high profile being Megrahi.

Watch out for video evidence appearing from Elish Angiolini on disclosure in you tube.

Rebus · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 6

Wullie,

The action against you is totally incredible!

I wonder if what you went through was "legitimate"?

Why would you be arrested and taken to a Police station and questioned whether you had a computer, when all they needed to do was have a warrant and seize your computer?

The fact this didn't happen makes very suspicious of what you went through.

Keep up the good work Wullie!

kevin donald · Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 60

Big Wullie you have them scared,the Lothian And Borders police and SCCRC,with more monitoring what you are doing

[Can you smell the fear from them]

Freedom Of Information,and disclosure given to paedophiles and not the people who really deseve it.The crown hide behind their own rules and are unwilling to take blame.The strain it must have put Louise and your two daughters.Must have been a stressful ordeal.

Will They Apoligize? let them take the computer, it makes them look stupid now but that would be the biscuit!

I Have it on information that Stathclyde police should have been informed of any inquiry from another force in their area. and have assistance from said good force.

Im Proud Of Your stance and I hope I can keep the fight as long as you have. i think this is the hardest thing in anything i have ever done.

Its Been A Hard 26 Years for you but your battling through it. is it not time we fight back against the bullies, and regain the respect our system once had.

http://news.scotsman.com/glasgow/Expoliceman-is-cleared--of.3999600.jp

http://news.scotsman.com/legalissues/Legal-update.4001285.jp

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news...d-by-miss-charity-86908-19995231/

Good luck Wullie.

Kevin

FTK2

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Edinburgh

Hi Wullie

Interesting point you make about the SCCRC releasing a list of jurors names & addresses to you. I'd say that should be of equal or greater concern to some than the recent revelations on your blog.

Notwithstanding the fact that a legal body releasing such material may frighten people off being a juror, the danger of identifying actual jurors and their locations surely has to rank much higher than the disclosure on your blog of an individual concerned in an integral part of your case which led to your 'arrest' last week.

Perhaps asking your MSP to raise the issue with the Justice Minister over the SCCRC's release of jurors names & addresses, and then asking that the Police be informed with a view to making inquiries of the matter afterwards may be the way to go on this, putting the onus on the Justice Secretary to act after the matter has been reported to him ?
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Nought Justice · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Edinburgh

big willie

Looks like it was more of a fishing expedition (swanswater or beecraigs even) for your info when you do a google with the police in question it shows he fishes everywhere round stirling and linlithgae public knowledge i would think

bloggers should not be arrested for voicing their opinions nor should anyone for that matter
the documents given to you by others does not constitute any crime and you should have left them all on the web

sccrc should be hauled over the coals for giving you jurors names and addresses and as far as i know never done in scotland before but this is not your fault if they never put a pit (public interest test) onto the document when released to you.

please keep us all up to date of any further developments in your most shocking case

bestest ever

Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 172 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Arrested or detained you are entitled to know on what grounds/suspicion these steps are being taken. My clear understanding is that Wullie was not so informed.

The apparent heavy-handed nature of the 'detention', that is effectively an arrest, requires some explanation and I would join those suggesting that his MSP asks questions.

The internet has given us all freedom of speech and while I believe we should use this freedom responsibly the police have a duty to explain why they deprived Wullie of his freedom and caused such upset to his wife and family.

Fighting for justice is hard enough without thoughtless behaviour that at best comes over as ill conceived and at worst arrogant bullying.

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Glasgow

Support From All Quarters

I would like to take this opportunity and thank all the above posters that have supported my quest for justice, Thanks.

I also want to share the letter sent by my MSP to Livingston Police with his concerns over my arrest see here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/big-wullie/2459836141/sizes/l/

I thank him too.

My Solicitor has confirmed the following three points:

1. I have not been charged.

2. There is no report being sent to Fiscal

3. And i have nothing to worry about

I am having a bit of trouble with my blog lately though and cannot post any fresh comments or topics there.

The following now concerns me:

Since they cannot charge me with anything.

Do they intend to attack my blogs and complain of them ?

Why were they allowed to come from Livingston to Glasgow unescorted by Glasgow Police, "But Filmed on my CCTV" There was no way i was leaving my house with two strangers saying they were CID from Livingston without a police escort.
This caused great distress to my wife.

The following is proof that the police i complain of from Livingston had number 2 out his mouth before turning to view my ID Parade and subject of one of my fresh grounds for appeal:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/big-wullie/425979884/sizes/l/

It also proves he came into the Parade without letting on he was a police from the same station (Not the actions one expects from police) and gave his name and address at witness No 11

To add to this the two Arresting Officers were allowed to take part in the parade with one assisting with the witnesses and one present in the parade room.
The same actions caused the case of James Haggerty to collapse at the high court in Glasgow in 2001, See here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/big-wullie/425979875/sizes/l/

They also showed the witnesses photos of me before the parade, No wonder they are trying to shut me up eh ?

As Rebus pointed out above, i wonder if their actions were "Legitimate" or as Iain Suggests an attempt at Arrogant Bullying.

Maybe though as Nought Justice points out it was just a fishing expedition, Who knows ?

Big Wullie · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Glasgow

I said Above:

Do they intend to attack my blogs and complain of them ?

My Law Society Blog has been taken down Rolling Eyes

Poor Me.

I thought i was being reasonable taking down Jurors Names and Address's and as stated i have no ill feelings towards them, However.

If it is their intention to attack my blogs then why should i take anything down ?

Be assured the same blog is up and running in another name, They will not bully me nor will they keep me quiet.

For sure if they are complaining about my blog then they are concerned.

My next step will be a website hosted from another country if the need arises, Those seeking to shut me up will have to be up earlier in the morning, There are far too many options open to people like me now with Wordpress, Bebo, Myspace, and Blogger etc etc.

As long as i have copies of everything written they will continue to appear and re-appear on the internet.

Any suggestions on the Jurors Names and Address's