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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear forum "Readers"

Freethekillie2 would like me to link the reply here to his response from First Minister in regards to his complaint and allegations of a miscarriage of Justice, For which his Brother in law Brendan Dixon Is wrongly serving Life Imprisonment with a 30 year tariff.
He would like everyone to see what to expect when such complaints are made.

Dear Mr Donald

Thank you for your e-mail of 30 May 2007 addressed to the First Minister about your brother-in law, Mr Brendan Dixon. I have been asked to reply as the Scottish Executive is responsible for the way in which the justice system addresses potential miscarriages of justice.

If someone has been convicted of a crime in a Scottish court and they believe that a miscarriage of justice may have occurred in respect of that conviction or in relation to the sentence imposed, then they should contact the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission. The Commission’s role is to review and investigate cases where it is alleged that a miscarriage of justice may have occurred in relation to conviction, sentence or both.

If you feel that the Commission may be able to assist in your nephew’s case you should submit an application to the Commission. You can download an application form from their website www.sccrc.org.uk or you can request a form by contacting them at Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission, Portland House, 5th Floor, 17 Renfield Street, Glasgow, G2 5AH, telephone number 0141 270 7030.

Integrity is the absolute cornerstone of modern day policing and I know that the Scottish police service is fully committed to tackling all aspects and allegations of corruption and misconduct. The Police (Scotland) Act 1967, which clearly defines the roles of Scottish Ministers and Chief Constables, also makes it clear that Chief Constables are entirely responsible for operational matters affecting their force including complaints. Neither Scottish Ministers nor the Scottish Executive has any place to intervene or comment on individual cases. Any issues you wish to raise with the Chief Constable, Strathclyde Police, 173 Pitt Street, GLASGOW, G2 4JS, will be taken very seriously by the police. If this is not your area police force, you can find further information at http://www.scottish.police.uk/mainframe.htm

Alternatively, you may wish to contact the Area Procurator Fiscal if you suspect that a police officer has behaved in a corrupt manner. Details of the Procurator Fiscal Service in your area can be gathered by visiting the following hyperlink: http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/Abo...w/Area-Procurator-Fiscal/APFIndex



I hope this reply is helpful.

Yours sincerely



ELEANOR McLEAN

Criminal Justice Directorate
Criminal Law & Licensing Division, GW.15
St Andrews House
Regent Road
Edinburgh EH1 3DG
Tel: 0131-244 2216

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Al



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few quick observations re Salmond’s (or his underling’s) “cop-out / do nowt” response to Freethekillie2:

"I have been asked to reply as the Scottish Executive is responsible for the way in which the justice system addresses potential miscarriages of justice."

"If you feel that the Commission may be able to assist in your nephew’s case... "
. Nephew?!!!

"Neither Scottish Ministers nor the Scottish Executive has any place to intervene or comment on individual cases."

SO ...... the message is crystal clear then: The “Scottish Executive is responsible”, but then it can’t “intervene or comment on individual cases.” CLAPTRAP! It can and does when it suits its own self-serving political ends.

Scenario:

Alex Salmond, Kenny MacAskill and Elish Angiolini have friendly tea and chatter in their cosy and palatial surroundings of Bute House ... Oh, who’s that at the door now? It’s oor good mate Willie Rae of course, the Chief Constable of Strathclyde Polis, just popping round for a blether too......

Meanwhile, Brendan Dixon, Megrahi and a whole host of other innocent souls languish and rot (lives RUINED) in our Scottish nicks ... while the aforementioned “Great and the GOOD” of Scottish “Society” (do me a favour!) do ... precisely ...... a big fat ............ ZERO!

People of Scotland: Thursday 3 May 2007 ............

YOU WAS CONNED!


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PeterCherbi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fairly standard response from the Scottish Executive there, unchanged from days of old I see.

However it can be used to our advantage in the long run as a campaign to bring a proper independent review of the culture of injustice we are suffering in Scotland.

The last Scottish Executive was made accountable at the polls for failing to deal with issues like justice & injustice - there is a public perceptipon in Scotland, and now outside Scotland, that our justice system and those who run it, serve it, and use it as a business model for making money, cannot be trusted.

If Ministers of the Scottish Executive - particularly those who have constituents who have cases of injustice, therefore 'knowing the score quite well' are going to sit back and do nothing, or simply fob the people off, it will be our job to make that Scottish Executive accountable.

No one gets a free ride in Government, and no one deserves it. The electorate must speak and be heard.

Campaign - not only via the internet, but publicly too. Spread the message and be heard.
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Big Wullie



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al & Peter

I agree with all you say above and more, Al quite rightly writes and they do when it suits their own political needs.
I must refer everyone to the Shocking case of Lesley Anne Cummings who's child was brutally raped and murdered by a sexual predataor allowed to mix in a block of flats in Glasgows Royston (B,Stard) may the wee sole rest in peace.
Paul Martin MSP Labour has fought Lesley's case (Quite rightly) and demanded laws be changed to stop these beasts being allowed near our Kids.
When i asked him for help in my own case he being my local MSP he told me he was not legally Minded then i find he has sat on Justice 1 committees etc etc.
Yes Al Only when it suited his own political Needs did he become involved.
Yes Al The response above to Mr Donald "Nephew" clearly shows how much attention to detail the Author Paid? It was his brother in Law he was writing about.
These type of MSPs have no place in our Parliament
These type of MSPs must be reminded of their Duties to the electorate and Constituents.
Their Rules and Regulations can be found at the following link:

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/msp/conduct/coc-v1.pdf

Of Interest is the following;
Public Duty
Duty as a Representative
Accountability and Openness
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Al



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Wullie.

The response from Salmond's underling was a total DISGRACE. I spotted the "Nephew" mistake straight away ... "honest mistake" perhaps, but still insulting to F t K 2 and of course Brendan himself ... who possibly held out a glimmer of hope from Salmond's (sorry, some faceless bureaucat in MacAskill's Criminal "Justice" Directorate ... who's the "criminal" here?!) much anticipated response to F t K 2's letter seeking help.
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As you rightly said, Wullie: we can expect much more of the same from Salmond, MacAskill and this "do NOTHING about injustice and miscarriages of justice lot" now they're in POWER ...... CORRUPTS and ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ............ ABSOLUTELY.

Messrs Salmond and MacAskill: You are NOT FIT TO GOVERN ... and if you both don't like the message, you know what to do......

As i said:

People of Scotland ... YOU WAS CONNED!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al

I also note the reference to SCCRC cover up merchants.
Quite clearly Mr Donald is hurting along with the rest of his family and for this type of response to be sent is shocking.
Yes i feel we should all look at this response and help Mr Donald to reply.
I would also ask that we The Forum look at ways of helping others compile complaints against the Police and PF Offices.
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PeterCherbi



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to me like the SNP are handling requests for help in the traditionally cold way of the civil service, which doesn't much suit their criticisms of previous administrations.

While I don't expect Mr Salmond to answer every plea for help on issues of injustice (if he did, I'm sure with the levels of injustice in Scotland he wouldn't be able to do much more), issues of injustice where people are at the resort of having to write direct to the First Minister for help are usually an indication there is nothing else they can do or face public bodies or the justice system which are well known behemoths of corruption & lack of accountability.

If the SNP are going to stay true to their word of being a change from the previous Executive, they have a lot to learn in how to respond to people on issues of injustice which have ruined peoples lives just to protect some so-called professional or public official from proper accountability for their actions.

You may be interested in an article I wrote yesterday on my blog, taking into account some information relating to how the Executive is currently responding to calls for help on matters of injustice ...

article here : http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...l-profession-attempts-fiddle.html

One extra point about helping people with complaints. One of the best ways of helping people with complaints, or drawing issues to their attention in a case they are currently pursuing - is publishing your own experiences.

Over the years, putting my material on the internet, as well has having it published at length by newspapers such as the Scotsman, have helped people a lot with complaints against the legal profession - and helped the campaign to bring a measure of independent regulation to complaints against solicitors in the new Legal Profession & Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 2007.

Leaflets are also a good way to help - the ones I've put on the Injustice Scotland site on groups.msn have been waived at a few lawyers enough to make them think twice over messing clients about ... but what we must encourage I think is for people who are in such situations as we are, to publish their own predicaments, either in the media if they will take it - or on the internet.

People soon catch on to seeing report after report with the same tricks, spin, bending of rules, and authored by the same officials ... if this kind of material were to start being published by the public, the haven of secrecy which injustice thrives on - keeping those very victims apart, will not be as useful to the people who have made their careers on the backs of victims of injustice ... and with public exposure, comes eventual scrutiny & accountability ...
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Al



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While always admiring and respecting Peter (greatly) for his very measured, wise, insightful and “calming” words – his writings and cognisance of all matters vis-à-vis “Injustice in Scotland” really are second to none – I would take slight issue with the fact that he “[doesn't] expect Mr Salmond to answer every plea for help on issues of injustice… ”. I do!

Yes, Salmond and MacAskill are not long at the helm of our new SNP Executive. And yes, of course, they are “very busy men” with many demands and pressures on them / their time (not least after last Saturday’s terrorist attack at Glasgow Airport), but we all know that the cases which are very well-documented and repeatedly highlighted on this forum (and others perhaps only they are privy to) will be very well-known to them by now – if they haven’t been reading this forum, you can rest assured their PAs will be, and will draw these cases of Scottish injustice and miscarriages of “justice” to their attention.

Just in case they need reminding where they have thus far failed to take any positive / remedial action:

“Annie Borjesson (RIP), Karen Dewar (RIP), Craig Gowans (RIP), Annie Davies (RIP), Kevin McLeod (RIP), William Beck, Brendan Dixon (Free the Killie 2), Al-Megrahi / Lockerbie, Shirley McKie, Kerelaw (child abuse and neglect scandal), Crown Office dubious decisions / lack of disclosure and devious practices...... the list is endless where fine actions have been glaringly lacking.”


I am as guilty as others, perhaps even more so, of succumbing to the frustrations and angers that we ALL have experienced frequently as a result of our cases of injustice (often going back several years) which have caused great pain, heartache, suffering and anguish to ourselves, our loved ones or others we seek to help. But that is simply because I am passionate about these issues and hate to witness the needless and avoidable suffering of my fellow Scots / man … I may not have risen to the dizzy heights of First Minister of Scotland or Cabinet Secretary “for JUSTICE”, but I do have “care, compassion and concern for fellow man”.

It still remains to be seen whether Messrs Salmond and MacAskill share my “care, compassion and concern for fellow man” and will take the fine action that I / we seek, that is urgently required, in all those cases (and others they know of) mentioned above.

Even though they are now in the very powerful positions they are, they must always remember that there are MANY fellow (“ordinary”) Scots – and other foreign nationals - who are suffering terribly as a result of their discredited and disgraced Scottish “JUSTICE” system.

“IT IS TIME… ” was the oft used SNP election slogan that finally, by the skin of their teeth, got them into the trappings of power on Friday 4 May 2007.

“IT IS TIME… ” that they use that power (not abuse it) for “good over evil” and address – here, now, today – ALL the cases of Scottish INJUSTICE that have been raised here thus far.

Remember this Messrs Salmond and MacAskill:


Every one of these Scottish INJUSTICES involves a family that has been brought to its knees; very often destroyed; and caused the most dreadful heartache, pain and needless / avoidable (usually) suffering to the individual concerned and their loved ones … who are screaming out for “help and assistance” … for “powerful people” like you guys to “PLEASE HELP US!” and immediately intervene.

“We're aw Jock Tamson's Bairns”, Kenny MacAskill said again on Friday’s interview with Lesley Riddoch on BBC Radio Scotland.

Let’s see if that "we're all the same under the skin" (which all Scots know is what is meant by that phrase) can be put into practice along with some “care, compassion and concern for fellow man”, and Messrs Salmond and MacAskill will now start using less very fine words but more very fine actions…………

On ALL the cases repeatedly highlighted on this forum … and the many others only they know about.

http://shirleymckie.myfastforum.org/sutra475.php#475


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

Yes, well you are of course, correct and I agree with you on that.. for what the SNP have said over the years in terms of criticism of the way the previous Executive have run things, I'd say it is down to the boss to reply on these things himself - after all, leaving it to the deputies and civil servants doesn't seem to do much good.

What they must learn is a new way to tackle issues such as injustice, rather than simply send out form letters such as the types of responses we are seeing ... if that's going to be policy, then Leslie Riddoch was correct in her interview the other day when she said "Kenny, you are starting to sound like the other lot)

Labour may not want to publicly acknowledge it, but one of the issues which dragged them down at the election was injustice - the high flying intellectuals might laugh at that one, but its more reality than fiction.

Keeping victims of injustice out of contact with each other due to the 'secret' arrangements of complaints handling doesn't work too well these days - and when more than half the country feels a gripe against services, public institutions and the legal system which are simply ripping them off and not allowing them to live - promotes a call for change.

If the SNP don't tackle that one - they either wont last their term or will never get re-elected .. and there are others just waiting in the wings to pounce on issues like this ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Letters To Alex Salmond Reply with quote

Big Wullie wrote:
I would ask that everyone leaves this forum specifically for Letters sent and responses From Alex Salmond.

Letter From William Beck is as follows.


Alex Salmond MP, MSP,
First Minister,
The Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh
EH99 1SP

Date: 30th May 2007


Dear Mr. Salmond.

JUDICIAL ENQUIRY INTO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM

As an Innocent man convicted wrongly of Assault & Robbery in 1982and still fighting
to even have an appeal in our Courts, I note that you are committed to a Judicial Enquiry in the case of Shirley McKie.

While this is a welcome step it will not necessarily help other miscarriages of justice in Scotland including mine. I feel that I have not been listened to for the past 25 years and hope that your decision indicates that injustice is Scotland is going to be properly examined.

I feel let down by the SCCRC, the Crown Office the Ombudsmen, FOI Commissioner and even the Standards Commissioner. I feel they all prefer to cover up for each other. One of the problems is the incestuous nature of our Justice System where there is little truly independent arbitration and I and others fighting for Justice are effectively asking Police and Lawyers to find fault with their own.

As we hopefully enter a new era of Government in Scotland I would support
the call for an Independent Enquiry into our Justice System in the hope that
Lessons will be learned from past mistakes and a fair and equitable system
for dealing with Injustice will be found.

Given your commitment to the McKie enquiry I would ask that you broaden it out to examine the whole Judicial System with a view to establishing a fairer justice system in Scotland.

I feel any enquiry should examine among other things:

1.SCCRC which should have an Independent complaints body set up to enable applicants not happy with their services to complain to. At the moment the person you complain of deals with such complaints. In my own case I felt that they were not acting Independently or Impartially as they proclaim.

2.Crown Office Disclosure Policy. There have been recent complaints in this respect from the legal profession. The Crown has withheld exculpatory evidence with Kidd and Gair being the most recent in Scotland to win appeals on this ground. The Crown are still practising this policy and still withholding Crown Statements. This must end and they need to be made accountable for doing so.

3.Appeal Courts. Our dilapidated laws badly need updated. The whole structure of fairness at appeals needs looking at.

4.Legal Aid. I was refused legal aid unjustly. Equality of arms must apply to everyone and everyone has the right to be legally represented in any court. If
this is refused it must be seen to be unfair and against Section 6 of Human
right to a fair hearing.
5.Other Issues.

The structure, operation and powers of the Law Society.
The structure, operation and powers of the SLS Ombudsman.
The Independence and accountability of the legal profession.
The independence and accountability of the Lord Advocate.

I am writing to you in the hope that a new government committed to an independent Scotland see the need to carry out a comprehensive review of our justice system. Let’s ensure that it is fit for purpose and that the many people like myself fighting for justice can have renewed hope that at least they will be listened to and that they and their families will not be condemned to a life of increasing bitterness and frustration.

Yours Sincerely


William Beck


Please find linked replies both Myself And Wife received today from our letters to Alex Salmond.
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=792630975&size=l

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=793549820&size=l

Firstly you will see that both are exactly the same bar the words "In support of your husband" Do they have these already typed ready to send?
Secondly and most importantly there is no answer to the many issues i raised in the above letter, Is this what we have to expect from our New Government? Cover ups the same as Labour Did?
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