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Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 25

Have we reached the point where those responsible for administering justice think silence and integrity are the same things?

The most appauling thing is, we are in crisis, and we are expected to trust blindly, a perverse system that does not recognise that it is.

So, who is in charge? Who can change this?

Bryan Davies at A Search For Justice.

allan mcleod · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 88

Yes Bryan, this silence manifests itself everywhere.

Recently the Admin of the Scottish Prison Service informed me in writing that they do not keep records of prisoners movements when on day or weekend release.

We all know that they do.

It was a blatant lie to deceive of which Kevion Dunion the FOI Commissioner agreed to which he stated in his recent decision,---
" The records contain information that would allow confirmation of whether and if so, when the named prisoner had been granted temporary leave.
I must therefore disagree with the ministers assertion that the recorded information was insufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether the information was held.
I consider the SPS was wrong to inform Mr Mcleod that the information was no longer recorded".

It seems and appears compulsary for the authorities to mislead, lie and give false information to families that is fighting for justice.

We Wonder Why !!!

Al · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject:

“Crisis? What crisis?”

The three words that helped to bring down “Sunny Jim” Callaghan’s Labour Government in 1979 … and gave us 18 years of Tory misrule.

Hard to believe then that Alex Salmond could be in the same state of denial over the very sorry and crisis state his Scottish (non)justice system is currently in.

Each and every one of us who have contacted this man of integrity (allegedly) about our cases are met with the same denials, lack of concern and dismissive replies … and downright lies in many instances too.

Time Messrs Salmond and MacAskill were met with the same Winter of Discontent as “Sunny Jim” was and were now forced to address fully and properly all our cases that they know are mired in incompetence, corruption, cover-up and criminal collusion … writ large.

But how? … especially when they are so intransigent, dismissive, uncaring and the protectors of the Scottish establishment sacred cows as they undoubtedly are.

“Great men” they are not … but corrupt men they are. We all know that power corrupts the individual, and these two men have proved that without any shadow of a doubt to me now … I’ve the huge files to prove it.

I said it before and will do so again:

“It’s time for a government Scotland can trust”. Pull the other one guys! I would trust you both, and your SNP “government”, as far as I could throw the lot of you … into the North Sea for good if I could.

You are a disgrace to yourselves … and bring shame upon Scotland by condoning this widespread corruption and these appalling injustices as you do.

Or dare you both now make me eat me words?…

Not holding my breath here.

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Excellent article as ever Peter ... and the comments are certainly worth a read. I bet MacAskill is pleased!

Justice Secretary - Scotland owes lawyers 'immense debt' while standards of service remain at all time low

http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2...retary-scotland-owes-lawyers.html

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Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 25

Perhaps it's time we went political. Should we create a "Justice Party" ?

Iain McKie · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 191 Location: Ayr, Scotland.

Bryan,

There is no way forward unless it is politically.

This is the only way change will result.

Those interested in change must make a case for it and that case must be politically supported.

Truth, logic, fairness and equity unfortunately have little to do with change unless the politicians pick it up.

Another reality is that justice/injustice is not really a high political priority and as a result issues like reducing the poll tax or university fees command much more attention.

These issues affect people directly. Injustice is a distant amorphous concept that only affects others. It is not seen as directly relevant to our daily lives.

I suggest that any prospective politician seriously interested in being elected would be well advised to campaign on a platform to reduce the council tax rather than to ensure that the truth about Lockerbie is known.

It is remarkable when you think about it but I cannot remember one successful political candidate standing on a justice platform.

Does this say it all?

Best wishes,

Iain

Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 25

Iain

Thanks for picking up on the issue of poll tax commanding political attention and being a platform to a seat in Scottish Government. Successful candidates, yes. Unfortunately, Council Tax, is still with us and rising alarmingly every year. Failures. Every one.

You asked me once why i do not have much regard for polititians. You answered the question far more graciously than I ever could.

As for a Scottish Justice Party? Keep the debate going folks.

Fondest regards
Bryan

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 147 Location: Edinburgh

Bryan

I think a read on how the SNP have reacted, or should I say, turned against Scotland over reforms to both the judiciary, access to justice, & reforms to the legal profession in last week's Scottish Parliament debate here :
http://scottishlaw.blogspot.com/2...turn-on-legal-market-reforms.html

If that debate and the responses from the Justice Secretary are a good indication of policy from the SNP, it looks like our current crop of politicians have not much desire to attend to issues of justice & injustice ....

If that is the case, and the Government have given up on Law, its time for minds to be changed ...
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Bryan · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 25

Peter

Thanks for the link. Likewise, I to am left with an deep uneasy feeling over that debate.

I am sure there is growing disquiet, among the general public over justice issues. Perhaps we are beginning to sense it's going badly wrong. like global warming. We have to pressure polititians to act before it goes beyond repair. Any ideas?

Regards

Bryan

PeterCherbi · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 147 Location: Edinburgh

Bryan

I think as far as Justice issues go in Scotland, at least on the merits of the debate I linked, the SNP are for all their promise in opposition, not the party to do much reforming, particularly when it comes to victims of injustice. This is the impression I get, at least, from the Justice Secretary's words.

I have to say, given the promise indicated to me from the previous administration of further reform (and lets not make any bones about it, it was the previous administration who actually passed the LPLA (Scotland) Act 2007 and started down the road of judicial reforms, I am deeply troubled by the Justice Secretary's about turn, almost, from his words, against the public, in favour of lawyers.

I agree we have to get politicians to change their mind, but I don't think we are going to change Mr MacAskills mind at all - after reading the way the debate went, which left no door open at all for resolving access to justice, or resolving injustice.

Rather than appeal to Ministers now, the focus should I think shift to Alex Salmond and put it on his head to change things for the better and resolve Scotland's problems. After all, he wanted it that way, Alex Salmond for First Minister, as the ballot says - so, if his Ministers are either out of control or too involved with their professions as to be lacking impartiality, it lands at Mr Salmond's door to fix the wrongs his own people refuse to heal.
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Al · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:01 am Post subject:

Rather than appeal to Ministers now, the focus should I think shift to Alex Salmond and put it on his head to change things for the better and resolve Scotland's problems. After all, he wanted it that way, Alex Salmond for First Minister, as the ballot says - so, if his Ministers are either out of control or too involved with their professions as to be lacking impartiality, it lands at Mr Salmond's door to fix the wrongs his own people refuse to heal.

Correct in all you say as ever Peter.

But in my experience of both these men, Salmond will do absolutely NOTHING about the wrongs committed by MacAskill, so fat chance him righting the wrongs for the wider Scottish public who have suffered injustices - in the horrendous case i've got in mind, wrongs and cover ups going back several years, which Salmond has refused to take any action on ... other than protect and cover up for his INJUSTICE Secretary ... who, it would appear, is well in the pockets of his crooked lawyer friends at Law Society HQ.

I knew all along (hate to say i told you so) we would get absolutely nowhere with this crowd on injustice issues and access to justice ... especially when these two men have covered up and are continuing to bury at SNP HQ one of the most cruel, degrading, inhuman and appalling injustices in Scotland today. Ain't that right gents?!

Please release ALL the files you are continuing to unlawfully withhold from the family concerned ... and unreservedly apologise for your appalling actions in the horrific case concerned.

Anything less amounts to theft of property, criminal collusion and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice ... as simple and serious as that guys.

You know the contact details...

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